tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1830834694453131127..comments2024-03-18T21:33:35.309-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Ransacking the Cosmos and Vandalizing the Pages of History (5.17.09)Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25413417360653470662007-05-25T08:04:00.000-07:002007-05-25T08:04:00.000-07:00maineman said "For some reason, they were all call...maineman said "For some reason, they were all called "White Men Suck." "<BR/><BR/>LOL! I'm <I>so</I> glad I'd just set my coffee mug down!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1337489745698030992007-05-25T07:28:00.000-07:002007-05-25T07:28:00.000-07:00Seems like annonymous took the same series of soci...Seems like annonymous took the same series of sociology and history courses that my kids did at college. <BR/><BR/>For some reason, they were all called "White Men Suck."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26291222725238268792007-05-25T06:58:00.000-07:002007-05-25T06:58:00.000-07:00Looks like I still need tutoring! Try this and t...Looks like I still need tutoring! Try <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo's_David" REL="nofollow">this</A> and <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Abbey" REL="nofollow">this</A> instead. :)Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28762649958821602422007-05-25T06:54:00.000-07:002007-05-25T06:54:00.000-07:00I do not trust the rationality of anyone who claim...I do not trust the rationality of anyone who claims that blind natural forces are the explanation for <A HREF="http://www.greatbuildings.com/cgi-bin/gbi.cgi/Florence_Cathedral.html/cid_1123539846_06454v.html<br/>" REL="nofollow">this</A> or <A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/michelangelo/michelangelo.david.jpg<br/>" REL="nofollow">this</A> <BR/>or <A HREF="http://blake.classicauthors.net/PoemsOfWilliamBlake/PoemsOfWilliamBlake1.html<br/>" REL="nofollow">this</A> <BR/>or <A HREF="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Psalm+14 " REL="nofollow">this</A> <BR/>or...<BR/><BR/>we could go on. Y'all are going to be sorry you taught me how to link.<BR/><BR/>To wit: explain yourself. <BR/><BR/>Natural selection doesn't account for you--for any of it. Not unless you ascribe to it intelligence. My husband and I always crack up when watching "Nova" (which he likes to rent). They continually terms like "design," "miracle," and in any number of ways describe "evolution" as purposeful, practically intelligent. It's unavoidable.Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24385574527391101472007-05-25T06:08:00.000-07:002007-05-25T06:08:00.000-07:00It's Ximeze's fault.It's Ximeze's fault.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-68893890125220294112007-05-25T06:06:00.000-07:002007-05-25T06:06:00.000-07:00bf1 said "The statement could be parsed as "natura...bf1 said "The statement could be parsed as "natural selection is the cause of our intelligence; in turn, our intelligence provides the written and/or verbal explanation of natural selection.""<BR/><BR/>I don't think you can say that natural selection 'caused' intelligence, and shouldn't that have been stated by bf skin her? Did you get your nic's in a knot.<BR/><BR/><BR/>bf2 said "Those equations might have plenty of meaning for Shiva with OR without humanity. Humanity cannot be assumed the be-all and end-all of the universe; we simply don't have enough information on Brahma's intentions to make that call."<BR/><BR/>Without humanity, they have no meaning. I don't think you can use the word Meaning in relation to an all seeing all knowing God - by whatever name - meaning only has meaning to those who are learning, those who are not all knowing all seeing.<BR/><BR/>There is no meaning whatsoever, without human beings - or some alien equivalent. Without that, it's just stuff. He hasn't consulted me on it, but if the big G want's to set off a few universes for fireworks practice - it won't be for gaining any sense of meaning.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56244220827249019342007-05-25T05:31:00.000-07:002007-05-25T05:31:00.000-07:00bf goddrich & skin:Your analysis is riddled with l...bf goddrich & skin:<BR/><BR/>Your analysis is riddled with logical and translogical flaws that I don't have time to correct. In any event, if that's what you believe, I certainly won't try to talk you out of it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-16235561908359319032007-05-25T05:13:00.000-07:002007-05-25T05:13:00.000-07:00ximeze said "Hey Ausimouse, Forget trying to swipe...ximeze said "Hey Ausimouse, Forget trying to swipe Columbus & Custer. You've got your own Natives to be guilty about."<BR/><BR/>And when you've got yourself worked up into a nice, comfortable state of self-loathing, here's one to get you all provoked again,<BR/><A HREF="http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=665" REL="nofollow">Australia's "Original Sin:Why Prime Minister Howard Should Not Apologize to the Aborigines"</A><BR/><BR/>Bon apetite'Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28463692895216300802007-05-25T03:19:00.000-07:002007-05-25T03:19:00.000-07:00Today learned the full name of someone who works a...Today learned the full name of someone who works at my new job site:<BR/><BR/>Maria de la Luz del Bosque<BR/><BR/>Mary of the Light of the Forrest <BR/><BR/>Lovely name for someone who makes her living cleaning restrooms.<BR/><BR/>But for the Grace of God, go I.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62871327084224350262007-05-25T03:11:00.000-07:002007-05-25T03:11:00.000-07:00Hey Ausimouse, Forget trying to swipe Columbus & C...Hey Ausimouse, <BR/><BR/>Forget trying to swipe Columbus & Custer. You've got your own Natives to be guilty about.<BR/><BR/>Lets have the names & titles of Abo sob-stories, where they whine about the things brought to them by the dregs of the English penal system.<BR/><BR/>Mighty lovely, no doubt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44277357130156998482007-05-24T22:42:00.000-07:002007-05-24T22:42:00.000-07:00bf, I also note that Bob writes:"The equations gov...bf, I also note that Bob writes:<BR/><BR/>"The equations governing the big bang are not the meaning of existence; rather, human beings are the meaning of those equations."<BR/><BR/>This statement is not watertight; it could be that God might like to bang out a universe or two without life, just to watch the fireworks.<BR/><BR/>Those equations might have plenty of meaning for Shiva with OR without humanity. <BR/><BR/>Humanity cannot be assumed the be-all and end-all of the universe; we simply don't have enough information on Brahma's intentions to make that call.<BR/><BR/>Or if you can make that call, then you've been speaking to The Man. In that case, rock on bro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-91613190143531220902007-05-24T22:30:00.000-07:002007-05-24T22:30:00.000-07:00Bob writes:"In other words, either natural selecti...Bob writes:<BR/><BR/>"In other words, either natural selection explains our intelligence, or our intelligence explains natural selection. You can't have it both ways."<BR/><BR/>I don't see why we can't have it both ways; it simply depends on how you use the word "explain."<BR/><BR/>The statement could be parsed as "natural selection is the cause of our intelligence; in turn, our intelligence provides the written and/or verbal explanation of natural selection."<BR/><BR/>Problem solved; now we have it both ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-80877567890877633252007-05-24T20:35:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:35:00.000-07:00"Cavemen don't say, "Fie!""Doh!"Cavemen don't say, "Fie!""<BR/><BR/><I>Doh!</I>Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4625580557776383302007-05-24T20:34:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:34:00.000-07:00Col. J. C. Beaglehole "Damn bloody Hawaiians! They...Col. J. C. Beaglehole "Damn bloody Hawaiians! They ate Captain Cook!"<BR/><BR/>Beggin' your pardon Col., but he's damn lucky the bloody <I>Tongans</I> didn't get him - they'd have made him bar-b-que his own legs and taste test himself for them, and force him to call "Heads or Tails" before yanking off his head and tossing it to see who got to use his ribs for a wishbone pull. Savages.<BR/><BR/>Sure know how to throw a party though.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38674447240748008642007-05-24T20:30:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:30:00.000-07:00Can't fool me, Van. Cavemen don't say, "Fie!":0)Can't fool me, Van. <BR/><BR/>Cavemen don't say, "Fie!"<BR/><BR/>:0)Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55082844125279265132007-05-24T20:28:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:28:00.000-07:00(Actually, I only just realized what "his-story" w...(Actually, I only just realized what "his-story" was supposed to mean, I was searching all up and down the comments to find <I>whose</I> story ninny was refering too. Sometimes I'm so please with my ignorance!)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5523532769845612562007-05-24T20:26:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:26:00.000-07:00Anonymous said "Which version of his-story is real...Anonymous said "Which version of his-story is really true?"<BR/><BR/>How utterly gender-centric of you, <I>His</I>-story! What, too lazy to write His-her-story? And how about that blatant dis'ing of the gender neutrals!<BR/><BR/>HOMOPHOBE!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37318158439271542822007-05-24T20:19:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:19:00.000-07:00aninnymouse,Oh just for a little recreational trol...aninnymouse,<BR/>Oh just for a little recreational troll whacking, just a sip, I for one am rather pleased with how Columbus's adventures turned out (namely the USA), and on the clash of cultures level, have no regret whatsoever over tactics used, how it progressed, etc.<BR/><BR/>I wish the Israelis would use it as a tried and true plan of action.<BR/><BR/>I'll point your silly ref's to this provoking little morsel<A HREF="http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=3228" REL="nofollow">Christopher Columbus, We Salute You</A>,and leave it at that; do enjoy.<BR/><BR/>Joan of Argghh! (gasp!) I have no idea how that caveman made that post using my nic, I must'a not clic...er... I mean, one must have snuck in while I was getting coffee - Shocking!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1436099162336232342007-05-24T20:16:00.000-07:002007-05-24T20:16:00.000-07:00Some cannibals boiled up a few missionaries and at...Some cannibals boiled up a few missionaries and ate them.<BR/><BR/>Afterwards, they all had severe stomachaches.<BR/><BR/>Upon further investigation, the medicine man found out what the problem was.<BR/><BR/>"You boiled these missionaries?"<BR/><BR/>"Yes," they replied.<BR/><BR/>"No wonder!" said the medicine man, "they were Friars!"Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6945984869927508052007-05-24T19:57:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:57:00.000-07:00love your posts whilst listening to Bill Evans "Vi...love your posts whilst listening to Bill Evans "Village Vanguard Recordings".<BR/><BR/>sqAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52642293356221883972007-05-24T19:29:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:29:00.000-07:00RE “Vandalizing the pages of History”Or His-story....RE “Vandalizing the pages of History”<BR/><BR/>Or His-story.<BR/><BR/>It seems that to place science above everything, or natural selection above intelligent design, or to distort historical fact but claim it is true, is to specifically break the 3rd Commandment. God created the order of the Cosmos. Therefore He alone retains its order and history, and its yet to be expressed history, if you will. To distort ANY history is putting yourself in place of Him and claiming that which ultimately, firstly and lastly, belongs only to God. It ignores God’s authority over that which He alone chooses to reveal or not to reveal over time.<BR/><BR/>God’s name in vain. I had never thought of this Commandment in this context before.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-35838233144493906812007-05-24T19:21:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:21:00.000-07:00Of course.And a backhanded reference to Senator Mc...Of course.<BR/><BR/>And a backhanded reference to Senator McCain, no doubt.walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-732214971152316122007-05-24T19:14:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:14:00.000-07:00Of course, also a reference to C.S. Lewis' essay, ...Of course, also a reference to C.S. Lewis' essay, The Abolition of Man.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34175532234626826342007-05-24T19:12:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:12:00.000-07:00Chicken sh*t.Never be afraid to ask!Chicken sh*t.<BR/><BR/>Never be afraid to ask!Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78370519762123635232007-05-24T19:10:00.000-07:002007-05-24T19:10:00.000-07:00Okay, let me play "my ignorance is showing" too, i...Okay, let me play "my ignorance is showing" too, if I may.<BR/><BR/>Your May 17 post ended with "which is not very courageous, but very C.S."<BR/><BR/>What is "C.S.?"walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.com