tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1738081308692790261..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Love and Knowledge at the Leading Edge of the CosmosGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61824820716069925872009-03-24T10:12:00.000-07:002009-03-24T10:12:00.000-07:00Johann, I very much doubt it. I'm sure they'd say ...Johann, I very much doubt it. I'm sure they'd say that all that worship we're supposed to do shows how the opposite is true. <BR/><BR/>Back to Art Blakey for a moment, having listened this morning I quite enjoyed it. Along with driving, I think it'll be good for painting, housecleaning, and any time I need something in the background to keep the audio neurons busy while focusing (or non-focusing) on other stuff. it's good <I>active</I> music.<BR/><BR/>As to the primal aspect, I agree, but it seemed downright genteel as compared to some of the other things I submit my poor ears to :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84810794377407981022009-03-24T08:46:00.000-07:002009-03-24T08:46:00.000-07:00Julie:"I think he's half-right."I think so too. In...Julie:<BR/>"I think he's half-right."<BR/><BR/>I think so too. In the last analysis there are no (real) values without the Absolute, only the subjective human illusion of value. And why should such illusions be taken seriously at all?<BR/><BR/>In Sweden the (kind of new) humanists write on there homepage that they "want to put the human in the center" instead of any supernatural god(s). I wonder if they have ever reflected over the fact that God has done nothing but putting the human race, as well as the individual human, always in the center.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-704883226118396382009-03-23T23:35:00.000-07:002009-03-23T23:35:00.000-07:00Movie buff alert:DVDs to order from Warner Bros. T...Movie buff alert:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-warnerbros23-2009mar23,0,4288760.story" REL="nofollow">DVDs to order from Warner Bros.</A> <BR/><BR/>The studio is opening its film vaults to customer requests, including many film titles previously unavailable on disc.<BR/><BR/>"My dream has always been to find a way to get everything to everybody who wants it," says George Feltenstein, senior vice president of theatrical catalog marketing for Warner Home Video. "No matter how obscure or arcane, there is something in the library that somebody wants."<BR/><A HREF="http://www.wbshop.com/Warner-Archive/ARCHIVE,default,sc.html" REL="nofollow">The Warner Archive</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78208775114964313912009-03-23T21:49:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:49:00.000-07:00"Definitely must be played at maximum volume, pref..."Definitely must be played at maximum volume, preferably in the car."<BR/><BR/>Really? Awesome. I haven't had a chance to listen yet; ended up spending the afternoon at the dentist for a chipped molar (which, oddly enough, wasn't nearly as unpleasant as you'd think. It helps if you like your dentist, though). But I'll remember that, next time I'm on a roadtrip. As to whether its female friendly, I figure if you can have a slightly gay side that likes the Carpenters then I can have a slightly butch side that enjoys primal pagan skin-pounding music :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84467888489995791182009-03-23T21:41:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:41:00.000-07:00Yes. That's what I meant. Must be difficult writin...Yes. That's what I meant. Must be difficult writing about an old firehose with a new one blasting the head. Or trying to find the needle in a stack of needles.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-17023861844696727812009-03-23T21:31:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:31:00.000-07:00You mean in today's post? We are now up to p. 67....You mean in today's post? We are now up to p. 67. On deck: The Subject in the Object and The Double Form of Truth, assuming I have anything to say about those topics in the morning.<BR/><BR/>The blogging is lagging way behind the reading, since I'm almost finished with volume two, and volume three is on the way....Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51315940962168067732009-03-23T21:22:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:22:00.000-07:00Bob, what page are you up to?Bob, what page are you up to?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62990368259152845742009-03-23T21:12:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:12:00.000-07:00Art Blakey was a force of nature. He pounded them...Art Blakey was a force of nature. He pounded them pagan skins like a man possessed. Definitely must be played at maximum volume, preferably in the car. I wouldn't normally think of him as being "female friendly," since he is so primal, like the Who or the Clash -- although he combined that element with fabulous soloists, first rate songwriting, and crowd-pleasing showmanship. Perhaps more than any other small group leader, he balanced brain and braun in his ensembles.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-64754276349967494522009-03-23T18:50:00.000-07:002009-03-23T18:50:00.000-07:00(Back to orange, I like the new sidebar music sele...(Back to orange, I like the new sidebar music selection. Art Blakey is only $7.99 as a download...<BR/>did I mention Amazon is dangerous? :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77912460277634570522009-03-23T18:39:00.000-07:002009-03-23T18:39:00.000-07:00Bob says,“In other words, we are intrinsically tri...Bob says,<BR/><BR/>“In other words, we are intrinsically trinitarian because God is. (I probably just said something heretical, but don't worry, I'm sure I can fix it later.)”<BR/><BR/>McGinn and Eckhart say,<BR/><BR/>“‘The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.’ Here Eckhart says, ‘It would be of little value for me that the ‘Word was made flesh’ for man in Christ as a person distinct from me, unless he was also made flesh for me personally so that I too might be God’s son. Does this mean that we ourselves become the Second Person of the Trinity? Yes and no, according to Eckhart. Yes in the sense that there is only one Sonship, which is not other than the Person of the Word; no in the sense that ‘we are born God’s sons through <I>adoption</I>.’ In his defense at Cologne and Avignon, Eckhart would appeal <I>inquantum</I> principle to explain this kind of expression. <I>Insofar as</I> there is only one real Son of God, if we are sons (as scripture expressly says), we are indeed identically <I>the same</I> Son <I>insofar as</I> we are sons, univocally speaking. From the perspective of our existence as created beings, however, we are <I>sons by adoption</I> and participation, analogically speaking.”Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-91437722127520589622009-03-23T16:42:00.000-07:002009-03-23T16:42:00.000-07:00Johann, that's an interesting article. Though I wo...Johann, that's an interesting article. Though I would add an observation to the author's ending:<BR/>"I never thought, when I finally put the old humanism behind me, that I would ever feel nostalgia over its loss. But now I recognize that it was not only noble in itself, but was also a serious attempt to retain the belief in nobility without the theological vision on which that belief had once depended. It was, in effect, a proof of the ideal that it proposed: an example of how human beings can provide themselves with values, and then live up to them."<BR/><BR/>I think he's half-right. It's a proof that there are some individuals who can provide themselves with values and live up to them, especially if they live in a society where, for a time, that is more or less the cultural norm. But in the absence of the Absolute, there's no real foundation for future generations to build those values upon. Hence the New Humanists (or just as aptly, the New Hedonists).juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83322416137250434472009-03-23T15:28:00.000-07:002009-03-23T15:28:00.000-07:00Good text from Roger Scuton in the American Specta...<A HREF="http://spectator.org/archives/2009/03/10/the-new-humanism" REL="nofollow">Good text from Roger Scuton in the American Spectator about the "new" humanism</A>.<BR/><BR/>Good night my fellow raccoons,<BR/><BR/>/JohanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55054502093596839652009-03-23T14:56:00.001-07:002009-03-23T14:56:00.001-07:00WOW!So much in this post sets the whole Cosmos int...WOW!<BR/>So much in this post sets the whole Cosmos into contractions,... and "water" flowing,..<BR/><BR/>Someone send word to the Pope.<BR/>He's gonna be a Daddy!<BR/><BR/>He can't stay in the Allegoric forever!<BR/>(<I>Doing so would just leave his position revealed as the "plug" that needs be "lost", or a stone to be rolled away</I>)<BR/>wv says he is off with the boys playin' <I>hooke</I>.<BR/><BR/>WEEEEHAAAAA!<BR/>WE"RE HAVIN' A BABY!Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39706337789599978672009-03-23T14:56:00.000-07:002009-03-23T14:56:00.000-07:00Thanks, Julie (WNW).There are many fruitful ways t...Thanks, Julie (WNW).<BR/><BR/><I>There are many fruitful ways to think about this, but I-magine the intra-trinitarian life as a kind of perpetual giving birth to its own Other (the Son), who is actually none other than itself. The Father bears witness to the Son and the Son bears witness to the Father in the love that flows between them -- which is also why love is prior to knowledge.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, that's certainly not heretical. <BR/><BR/>The Son, or the Logos, is the Creator out of the limitless perfect potential of the Father, i.e., the Source. Is there not something analogous in man?mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54613143683886662462009-03-23T14:04:00.000-07:002009-03-23T14:04:00.000-07:00Speaking of orange as "the true light manifested i...Speaking of <A HREF="http://worldmysteries9.blogspot.com/2009/03/genius-of-medieval-church-builders.html" REL="nofollow">orange</A> as "the true light manifested in the physical consciousness and being"...<BR/>(via the Anchoress)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45863738969099859472009-03-23T13:42:00.000-07:002009-03-23T13:42:00.000-07:00You must continually renounce the fruits. It most ...<I>You must continually renounce the fruits. It most be done for the sake of the Divine, not for one's own sake.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://funglejungle.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Mushroom</A> has some related thoughts today:<BR/><BR/>"The thing is, at some point, we must choose between the gifts and the Giver."juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-31683608496896889832009-03-23T13:16:00.000-07:002009-03-23T13:16:00.000-07:00How does that explain Bill Maher and Brad Pitt? Wi...How does that explain Bill Maher and Brad Pitt? Will to power? Electricity rules the Earth then? Oh crap...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10440278920874718392009-03-23T13:12:00.000-07:002009-03-23T13:12:00.000-07:00That's the rub! You're right. The little bugger is...That's the rub! You're right. The little bugger is always there wanting to bask in its own light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41504414610079748582009-03-23T13:09:00.001-07:002009-03-23T13:09:00.001-07:00Absorbing it until it realizes itself in our work?...Absorbing it until it realizes itself in our work? <BR/><BR/>Yes.<BR/><BR/>Or is it only designated for those born with the ability?<BR/><BR/>More or less one's "vocation," which includes ability.<BR/><BR/>I might add that you must be 100% sincere. And any covert egoic motivations will short circuit the process. You must continually renounce the fruits. It most be done for the sake of the Divine, not for one's own sake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52767111650413951642009-03-23T13:01:00.000-07:002009-03-23T13:01:00.000-07:00I'm continually being blown away by MOTT (near the...I'm continually being blown away by MOTT (near the end of Force). As intellectual as it is, it has this amazing ability to by pass straight to the heart or the depth of our being where language (at least for me) somewhat dissolves. I cannot even put it into words the landscapes and truths it illustrates. It's too big for words. Even things I knew inherently became clearer. Things I believed, but couldn't comprehend, somehow became comprehensible.<BR/><BR/>The question is how do we apply this to our own work? Is it possible? Or Is it wrong to even think about it? Obviously, you're doing it here at OC, but for the rest of us... is it a matter of patience? Absorbing it until it realizes itself in our work? Can we "practice" this? Or is it only designated for those born with the ability?<BR/> <BR/>As an artist, I'm at the crossroads where I can see where I want to go, but I'm not sure I can live into it or execute it properly. Practicing ones craft is one thing, but that ability to penetrate to the core like Tomberg does is something else all together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38336979795957711292009-03-23T12:48:00.000-07:002009-03-23T12:48:00.000-07:00That's funny, Bob. For some reason, I knew you wou...That's funny, Bob. For some reason, I knew you would have a picture today so I was surprised not to see it there. I missed the sidebar earlier :Djuliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72736081711943824292009-03-23T12:31:00.000-07:002009-03-23T12:31:00.000-07:00Julie:See also record in sidebar. You probably ha...Julie:<BR/><BR/>See also record in sidebar. You probably have to see a larger image, but definitely a "tequila sunrise" effect.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65631421636013821662009-03-23T12:25:00.000-07:002009-03-23T12:25:00.000-07:00"As I have said before, we raise our children, but..."As I have said before, we raise our children, but not nearly as high as they raise us!"<BR/><BR/>Oh, sO true. There's a reason we tell them 'you'll understand when you have kids!', not so much because we are so wise now, but that they won't gno what they need to know, until <I>their</I> children have taught it to them!<BR/><BR/>wv:court<BR/>of last resOrtVan Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76133362237792576402009-03-23T12:20:00.000-07:002009-03-23T12:20:00.000-07:00Petey answered Julie "...orange on the other hand ...Petey answered Julie "...orange on the other hand is excessively 'hot' because it is composed of two hot colors, the one heavy (red) and the other light (yellow)...<BR/><BR/>"Red rises before us like a wall of fire.... it excites, awakens, exteriorizes.... it is aggressive and moves outward.... Yellow partakes of intensity and depth, but in a 'light' mode.... it rejoices and delivers." --Schuon"<BR/><BR/>Orange-ya glad she asked?<BR/><BR/>;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-36959804586662201932009-03-23T12:14:00.000-07:002009-03-23T12:14:00.000-07:00Thanks, Petey - I was just wondering because it ap...Thanks, Petey - I was just wondering because it appears to be the <A HREF="http://juliecork.wordpress.com/" REL="nofollow">secret</A> <A HREF="http://frothfromwalt.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">color</A> of <A HREF="http://robinstarfish.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">the day</A>. I'll take that to be a <I>good</I> sign, then :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com