tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1502959202257186450..comments2024-03-29T06:03:45.545-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: What We Can’t Know & What We Can’t Not KnowGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38321455011971815882016-08-21T11:25:52.878-07:002016-08-21T11:25:52.878-07:00There is nothing scary in bringing out the good qu...There is nothing scary in bringing out the good qualities of the human, what is scary is forgetting the nurturing process the tool of spiritual growth and get preoccupied with the natural construction of the human. It is unfortunate to be occupied with what you do not have option in, and neglect the domain of your option that is your spiritual growth. Spiritual growth is a doing issue that is to know is to be, the message that have been forgotten only to be rejuvenated in our time by peoples like polanyi,schuon, gunion, corben, gebser etc etc not forgetting the contribution of gagdad. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180761762279054000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15171995984973918552016-08-19T09:46:14.814-07:002016-08-19T09:46:14.814-07:00Very true. Luke 12:48 -- Everyone to whom much ha...Very true. Luke 12:48 -- <i>Everyone to whom much has been given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.</i><br /><br />That's kind of scary.<br /><br />mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89357143911536673172016-08-19T09:09:16.913-07:002016-08-19T09:09:16.913-07:00You know, that's a really good point in light ...You know, that's a really good point in light of the the parables of the talents. Not that it's wrong to be rich, but that much is expected of those who have been given a lot - whether money or brains or other gifts. How many people, having been gifted with IQ, are willing to put it to the service for which it was intended.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9190847795419628742016-08-19T09:04:35.002-07:002016-08-19T09:04:35.002-07:00Mushroom said "Lower IQ doesn't mean peop...Mushroom said "Lower IQ doesn't mean people can't be good, can't contribute to society, aren't loved by God, and don't deserve to be valued as fellow humans."<br /><br />That seems true, and then, conversely, it also seems to be true that:<br /><br />It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a large cranium to enter the kingdom of God.<br /><br />Paraphrasing.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994306709948231112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25942426977617518182016-08-19T08:35:46.788-07:002016-08-19T08:35:46.788-07:00As to the aninnymouse, Cuz & Petey got it abou...As to the aninnymouse, Cuz & Petey got it about right.<br /><br />As to the possibility of differences between races, I haven't read the book, but if we're talking about differences in something brain processor speed, or even memory retrieval, the physical aspects of what is normally referred to as intelligence, I can see no reason why there wouldn't be differences between races, just as there are differences in hair type, melanin, bone structure and size. To say that noting a tendency that Nordic types tends to be larger boned than Eurasian types is racist, could be, assuming the data is sound, just as silly as saying that the click speed of the Eurasian brain is higher than the Nordic, is racist (though I suspect there'd be discussion of whether Nordic is a race, rather than a type of Caucasian,etc, and the fact that changed Eurasian diets have resulted in larger boned people,etc).<br /><br />I do though, and again, I haven't read the book, have a problem with a wider view of intelligence, wisdom, morality, being associated with race as such. It seems far more likely that such issues are related to culture, rather than race. The examples of people of one race being raised by another, although interesting, don't prove a racial cause; human beings aren't so easily isolated from influence as that - but it's interesting, to be sure.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78249870492695206652016-08-19T08:00:09.917-07:002016-08-19T08:00:09.917-07:00I couldn't care less if every math and enginee...I couldn't care less if every math and engineering spot at Berkeley and Stanford is taken by an Asian. I guess that means I hate white people. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-31958796628957084502016-08-19T07:44:15.563-07:002016-08-19T07:44:15.563-07:00That there are racial differences in IQ and temper...That there are racial differences in IQ and temperament should be no more surprising than that there are sexual differences. For example, because the bell curve for male intelligence is flatter and wider, there are more male geniuses but also more male idiots. The consequences of denying the differences are catastrophic and tragic. In a free society, outcomes will match attributes, not some abstract ideal of equality. Therefore, the freer and fairer the society, the more liberals will complain that it isn't. Fairness will be taken as evidence of unfairness, to be remedied by the heavy hand of the state. Which will only fail, and which will in turn evoke calls for more state intervention. <br /><br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-29222254412064472212016-08-19T07:21:25.481-07:002016-08-19T07:21:25.481-07:00Exactly, and well said. A refusal to acknowledge t...Exactly, and well said. A refusal to acknowledge the reality of differences in IQ can only result in policies geared to "help" the less gifted that actually do just the opposite. We have forgotten that "all men are created equal" means not that we are all the same, nor <i>ought</i> we be all the same, but rather that we have equal value in the eyes of God.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41198752210194272152016-08-19T07:09:29.226-07:002016-08-19T07:09:29.226-07:00I see where Molyneux was called a white supremacis...I see where Molyneux was called a white supremacist on Twitter for displaying the bell curve of IQs by race.<br /><br />Lower IQ doesn't mean people can't be good, can't contribute to society, aren't loved by God, and don't deserve to be valued as fellow humans. It does mean they tend to make poor choices in some cases and are in greater need of stable families and guidance from institutions like the Church. <br /><br />What has happened is that government programs and policies, with all of their unknown unknowns and unintended consequences, have enabled and enhanced destruction of family integrity and stability (across all races) while the media and popular culture have vehemently and relentlessly attacked Christianity and Christian values. The consequence is that fatherless children who need more help and guidance are getting less, resulting in a downward spiral -- maybe a deadly spiral.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-48733697509880710362016-08-19T03:39:15.827-07:002016-08-19T03:39:15.827-07:00La! The SPLC has stepped into the legal vacuum of ...La! The SPLC has stepped into the legal vacuum of a godless judiciary and set itself up as the sole arbiter and judge of the hearts of men. To bow to their opinions as a sacrosanct and unquestioned authority is to acknowledge one's personal insecurity about things hidden in one's own heart. The cowardly bigots hide behind SPLC in the same way Scott Adams says he's voting for Hillary: because he fears her power.Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10776709237955825822016-08-19T03:26:37.654-07:002016-08-19T03:26:37.654-07:00My apologies to you, Abdulmonem. This blog gets al...My apologies to you, Abdulmonem. This blog gets all sorts of folks trolling for attention, and your stream-of-consciousness style was fascinating in its exact echoing of Bob's posts. It was almost a glossolalia! I suppose we all feel that way when the AHA!! happens. Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-88932041448156420762016-08-18T20:17:16.827-07:002016-08-18T20:17:16.827-07:00It's worse. It's like being called racist...It's worse. It's like being called racist by a Democrat.Peteynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-64694311643244108942016-08-18T20:15:12.247-07:002016-08-18T20:15:12.247-07:00Being denounced as a hater by the Southern Poverty...Being denounced as a hater by the Southern Poverty Law Center is like being called unconstitutional by the ACLU. Cousin Dupreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39663097357598209222016-08-18T19:41:57.103-07:002016-08-18T19:41:57.103-07:00Huh. Donald Trump and unvarnished white supremacis...Huh. Donald Trump and <a href="https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/michael-levin" rel="nofollow">unvarnished white supremacists</a>. I guess there is nothing too low for this blog. Now that Trump has hired an antisemite and Holocaust denier, I guess that's next on the agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34195251228380557212016-08-18T19:17:08.571-07:002016-08-18T19:17:08.571-07:00It's definitely an interesting topic. Plus any...It's definitely an interesting topic. Plus anything that eviscerates the left images for good entertainment.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78694512414658776342016-08-18T15:07:39.916-07:002016-08-18T15:07:39.916-07:00I'm enjoying Levin's Why Race Matters so m...I'm enjoying Levin's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Race-Matters-Michael-Levin/dp/0983891036/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=onecos-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=09627db9d64d6c6401633497fffc6bb2&creativeASIN=0983891036" rel="nofollow">Why Race Matters</a> so much, I just ordered his earlier book on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0887381251/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1M0Z9KRTC1IB&coliid=I2K1TNMKPTB381&me=" rel="nofollow">Feminism</a> -- for only a penny. And even if you reject his conclusions about genetics, the former is filled with other fascinating eviscerations of liberal pieties, pandering, canards, frauds, shakedowns, and illogic. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66203635234437405152016-08-18T14:56:57.516-07:002016-08-18T14:56:57.516-07:00Polanyi didn't write much explicitly on the re...Polanyi didn't write much explicitly on the religious implications of his ideas, but others have. However, there is a chapter on it in his last book, Meaning, called <i>Acceptance of Religion</i>. Haven't read it in 30 years or so. Perhaps I should take another look to see if there's anything helpful...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-21462341418192060502016-08-18T14:45:51.660-07:002016-08-18T14:45:51.660-07:00Illuminating. I feel at home. I am too old to seek...Illuminating. I feel at home. I am too old to seek attention. My purpose is to release myself from the label and find my humanity in its pure form and to work in that direction, like Shunoun searching for the common denominator that joins all human religious experiences or the heretical experiences,starting from the obvious premises that of one god,one cosmos ,one humanity and one earth in its air,water,fire and what it produces for our sustenance we share and to find the force behind all these magnificent signs including the human discoveries and revelations over the ages which have been expanded exponentially in our time only to face the truth of our operating system that neglects nothing. Few nights ago I was watching a lecture on you tube by a member of Ibn Arabi society speaking in the transcedance and immanence and the role of imagination in Ibn Arabi search for god. It seems. as Polanyi said that we start our journey in a certain dwelling only to break away from it seeking our unique path to him. 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