tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1373876120535249288..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: The Reality Before Reality and the We Before IGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65369503389174400932014-09-12T10:56:45.305-07:002014-09-12T10:56:45.305-07:00Julie said "Why not measure a natural atom - ...Julie said "Why not measure a natural atom - was there a shortage?"<br /><br />:-) Yep, that one, and this one, really caught my attention:<br /><br />"We have opened a new door into the quantum world by talking and listening to atoms,"<br /><br /><i>Talking</i> to them? Raises some interesting questions about what they consider talking to consist of... but I'm betting that one side of the conversation, or the other, thought that there was very, very, very, little sense being made.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30587491212648756412014-09-12T09:37:18.393-07:002014-09-12T09:37:18.393-07:00Wow - talk about raising questions! How does one g...Wow - talk about raising questions! How does one go about constructing an atom, and what kind of atom did they construct? Did they just manufacture an element?! That seems pretty interesting to me. And how do you make a scaffold that's <i>smaller</i> than an atom? Also, just because this atom resonates on a D (a perfect D, or just kind of close to a D?), I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that not all atoms resonate at the same pitch. Why not measure a natural atom - was there a shortage?<br /><br />Interesting stuff. Thanks, Van :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-21258739795463519702014-09-12T09:02:56.098-07:002014-09-12T09:02:56.098-07:00Huh. Apparently the music of the spheres is in the...Huh. Apparently the music of the spheres is in the key of D. Or at least a small part of it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/sound-atom-captured_n_5810124.html" rel="nofollow">Scientists Capture The Sound Of A Single Atom, And Apparently It's A 'D-Note'</a>Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83953566045620209322014-09-12T06:07:57.832-07:002014-09-12T06:07:57.832-07:00Speaking of making claims, it seems none of O'...Speaking of making claims, it seems none of O's posse can manage a sense of authority when they speak. The passive tics and tells give away their real position within the diktat. If they speak with certainty, it's likely to come back on their own heads. <br /><br />Everyone hedges their speech and their bets because they know <i>exactly</i> how the hyenas will pull down their prey-- having done it themselves on Reddit a million times.Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10163084924265922412014-09-12T05:10:28.647-07:002014-09-12T05:10:28.647-07:00You know what they say, Van: if you can't be w...You know what they say, Van: if you can't be with the boy you love, love the sheep you're with.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33863221324848069892014-09-12T05:01:50.363-07:002014-09-12T05:01:50.363-07:00Ben said "Aye, and if you can never get to th...Ben said "Aye, and if you can never get to the real You then what's the point?"<br /><br />I guess if you can't get to the real you, a ewe would have to do. Say! Maybe that explains the islambies and their sheep!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58344832996914253672014-09-11T23:06:37.341-07:002014-09-11T23:06:37.341-07:00"But in a fiendish twist, the pneumapathic De..."But in a fiendish twist, the pneumapathic Deepaks of the world start with the paradoxes of quantum physics in order to prove that the macro world is pervaded by the same sorts of paradoxes, such as "perception is reality." Thus, they want to have their scientific crock and eat it too: misusing science to support a crazy a priori ideology."<br /><br />Which explains how leftists can claim to be the "reality based community" although they deny reality in reality.<br /><br />It strikes me as ridiculous that anyone would think they hafta say that to begin with. I mean, who thinks that way? Certainly not someone grounded in reality.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24857311082865134272014-09-11T22:55:20.889-07:002014-09-11T22:55:20.889-07:00"Conversely, if your eureka moment is "I..."Conversely, if your eureka moment is "I think therefore I am," you have consigned yourself to a closed system from which you will never legitimately escape. If your first principle is "me," you can never get to the real You."<br /><br />Aye, and if you can never get to the real You then what's the point?USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50228167507858338752014-09-11T20:36:13.555-07:002014-09-11T20:36:13.555-07:00... in order to prove that the macro world is perv...<i> ... in order to prove that the macro world is pervaded by the same sorts of paradoxes, such as "perception is reality."</i><br /><br />They can play that game only because they are so insulated from reality. mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54299451999179931352014-09-11T20:22:00.678-07:002014-09-11T20:22:00.678-07:00He can't be reached by reality because his sou...<i>He can't be reached by reality because his soul is unlisted.</i><br /><br />That right there is poetry. mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-31692247479990833552014-09-11T14:04:03.796-07:002014-09-11T14:04:03.796-07:00Talk about asking the wrong question...Talk about asking the wrong question...Paul Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266956202232070017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75934555939878594812014-09-11T11:59:36.255-07:002014-09-11T11:59:36.255-07:00Paul Griffin said "...we are still well insid...Paul Griffin said "...we are still well inside the temporal blast radius of his assumptions."<br /><br />That is a <i>really</i> good way to put it, exactly so. Descartes was the start, wittingly or not, he loaded the canon which everyone from Rousseau to Kant to Hume and on have been blasting us in the foot with ever since.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-8715390443936246182014-09-11T11:41:22.641-07:002014-09-11T11:41:22.641-07:00Descartes, now there's a guy that comes immedi...Descartes, now <b>there's</b> a guy that comes immediately to mind when talking about people that can't abide a mystery, and have no sense of the consequences of trying to subdue something much bigger than yourself. In fact, I would say he is the model <i>par excellence</i>. He may have only been the embodiment of the spirit of the age, but as you note, we are still well inside the temporal blast radius of his assumptions.Paul Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266956202232070017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66673109563925990762014-09-11T09:52:46.644-07:002014-09-11T09:52:46.644-07:00"The first principle of the science before sc..."The first principle of the science before science is that "the world exists independent of us and of our understanding." You'd think this wouldn't be controversial,<b> but that's because you're not a genius, like Descartes or Hume or Kant</b>.<br /><br />Ahhh. You had me at 'The'. This is going to be a very satisfying meal.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61803361083058565842014-09-11T09:48:44.333-07:002014-09-11T09:48:44.333-07:00..but have you noticed how the subjectivists begin...<i>..but have you noticed how the subjectivists begin with normal science, and then twist it around in order to support their subjectivism?</i><br /><br />I'm reminded, perhaps just tangentially or possibly even erroneously, of people who like to make claims about various substances (especially "natural" products), without ever doing any actual, rigorous testing to see if those claims are true. For instance, hydrogen peroxide is not a disinfectant. But it has been claimed as such for so long that even a large number of medical supply companies sell it as such, without ever having done any actual testing to see if it worked. Turns out it doesn't; just foams up a lot, and stings, so people assumed it does something useful for wounds. it *might* help in removal of foreign particles, but that's about it.<br /><br />Anyway.<br /><br />Every once in a while I get curious about claims made about various substances, many of which are also billed as disinfectants, or natural insect repellants/ insecticides, or any variety of other seemingly magical properties. The only way to find out if they work, though, is to test them. I did rather a lot of that last fall, upon discovering just how badly my house was overrun with ants. Turns out the best way to get rid of ants, in Florida at least, is to call people whose job is to come up with effective ways of getting rid of them.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com