tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1187954323305141148..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Of Icons and OconsGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-466664149928005012009-06-30T14:48:11.177-07:002009-06-30T14:48:11.177-07:00This typo will bug me. The comma goes after '...This typo will bug me. The comma goes after 'materialist', not 'up-side-down'. <br /><br /><br />Should be:<br /><br />...the effects of the cockroach, living-dead, materialist, up-side-down philosophies, ideologies, and mentalities and an absence of Truth. <br /><br />**<br /><br />But it is not even the *effects* of an absence of Truth, it is also a lack of the LOVE of Truth.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6425153696775883702009-06-30T14:24:52.401-07:002009-06-30T14:24:52.401-07:00Just caught up with the comments. What really pus...Just caught up with the comments. What really pushed me over the edge of being upset was the first comment (on FB) after this person's inquiry. Something to the pathetic effect of her having answered her own question. As if! It was like my friend put in the nail (in the coffin?), and her friend jammed down on it with a hammer.<br /><br />The question seems like a two-headed prong. <br /><br />1. The sad less-than-baby step of "If zombies can walk around after death (don't want to use the words "can live"), then maybe Jesus could too?" Like 'flirting' or 'teasing' with the idea of faith that maybe it's true, and vaguely hinting at the contrast of Jesus' LIFE. This plus the 'shock value' of it. But really she knows better. [Or pure mockery, like "you guys put your faith in a zombie," since there can be no resurrection on a spiritual plane, only gross caricature as in a zombie, if you are an atheist-materialist.] <br /> <br />2. The 2-D Christians (whom Bob has called materialists) might be more of what she is referring to (not that I'm justifying it), in some kind of under-the-surface association. This prompted, perhaps, by animosity toward people like that. <br /><br />It's juvenile. The comment session on FB ended with someone's suggestion of the Jesus zombie movie, followed by the question's originator with a celebratory thanks of camaraderie. She didn't think about the gravity of the question and how much it would - yes, viscerally - tick some people off, especially anyone who cares about the effects of the cockroach, living-dead, materialist up-side-down, philosophies, ideologies, and mentalities and an absence of Truth. <br /><br />At any rate, it was disgusting. Thank you for all the feedback.<br /><br /><br />**<br /><br />I stepped away before posting this and had the thought that it is in the zone of "pulp" culture. (If you can call it culture.) <br /><br /><br />And now I'm really ticked. I revisited and among a few ridiculous comments, someone wrote "a quitter." I want to punch that commenter in the nose! None of this is worthy of response but talk about opposite of the truth! <br /><br /><br />I choose my battles, but this just ticked me off. I think because she knows the Bible, so it stung. <br /><br />**<br /><br />"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79958367154978316722009-06-30T08:17:58.792-07:002009-06-30T08:17:58.792-07:00"Zombies," (a figment of man's moral..."Zombies," (a figment of man's moral imagination, which will out no matter how men try to suppress the truth) are in thrall to death. Sounds like somebody we know well. Jesus met death and overthrew it. He is the Victor and now holds the keys to death and Hades. "Nor did his flesh see corruption..." Acts 2:31 He's not walking dead, but Life itself. "I am the resurrection and the life." He also happens to be the Lord of the universe: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the **firstborn from the dead,** that **in everything he might be preeminent.** For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross. And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now **reconciled in his body of flesh by his death,** in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him...."Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74038348314766004222009-06-30T06:37:14.256-07:002009-06-30T06:37:14.256-07:00Worth reading: "Realist" policies that a...Worth reading: "Realist" policies that are "immune to reality".<br /><br /><a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0609/glick063009.php3" rel="nofollow">Welcome back, Carter</a>.<br /><br />wv warns "firents" Yeeouch!NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1712723799868272009-06-30T06:05:37.499-07:002009-06-30T06:05:37.499-07:00QueegWatch:
Talk about showing your "true co...QueegWatch:<br /><br />Talk about showing your "true colors". For anyone who doubted that Queeg is a full-blown leftist/atheist who happens to hate Islam, he is now talking about a "balanced view" of global warming (allegedly presented in leftist tech-porn journal Wired).<br /><br />Just as abortion is the most effective moral litmus test, global warming is the handiest guide to a person's grip on plain old reality.Northern Banditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45347619977925310152009-06-30T06:02:31.349-07:002009-06-30T06:02:31.349-07:00Imagine though. Imagine…our zombie’s horror…to dis...Imagine though. Imagine…our zombie’s horror…to discover some other zombie thought of the Jesus zombie’s first. He can’t even have the distinction of being in the least lofty position of someone's “couldn’t care less”. Can’t even have that. Pity.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66598261547583923172009-06-30T05:57:33.271-07:002009-06-30T05:57:33.271-07:00Zombies can operate Google. What’ll they stink up ...Zombies can operate Google. What’ll they stink up next.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25203282269716585472009-06-30T05:55:44.732-07:002009-06-30T05:55:44.732-07:00Johan,
Pottyshrine begs to differ with you.Johan,<br />Pottyshrine begs to differ with you.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20522397646938703482009-06-30T05:53:45.994-07:002009-06-30T05:53:45.994-07:00gulpingpotty said "More fun facts h..."
...gulpingpotty said "More fun facts h..."<br /><br />I suppose the only proper response to potty boy is to flush. <br /><br />(Although I rather enjoyed <a href="http://www.thereturnofscipio.com/?p=2296#comments" rel="nofollow">Scipio's</a> (at the bottom))Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54374515902893295082009-06-30T05:30:33.118-07:002009-06-30T05:30:33.118-07:00Zombies are not for real, Jesus is.Zombies are not for real, Jesus is.Johannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44618247643426789172009-06-30T04:18:32.238-07:002009-06-30T04:18:32.238-07:00The problem is, people are stupid and impressionab...<i>The problem is, people are stupid and impressionable. And one of the main reasons they are stupid and impressionable is that liberals have near total domination of the educational establishment and mass media. Unless we solve the problem of TV and college, we're going to continue to get vapid but dangerous clowns such as Obama. There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that elevates the perverse nightmare of a sadistic father to an icon, and elevates the vacant dream of an absent father to an even bigger con.</i><br /><br /><b>"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them"</b><br /><br />It is obvious...<br /><br /><b>"Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh"</b><br /><br />This is also obvious. Yet we live in an Orwellian World where we indoctrinate children under force of law to believe that people come in five genders, that penetrative annual intercourse is a normal healthy sexual behavior, that a male transvestite is really a "woman" and soon we will teach them that homosexual+homosexual = marriage. And under force of law, adults must pretend this is so. Do not assign all of the blame to pop-culture for pretending that Michael Jackson and Rosie O'Donnell are model parents. This Gramscian game has been going on for some time.<br /><br />.<br />Hey! War is peace,<br />freedom is slavery<br />and<br />Bush lied and people died...<br />.<br />. <br /><br />I've been trying to find a compelling way to explain to small government conservatives, free market supporters, libertarians and such that they are holding a losing hand without social and religious conservatives. small government conservatives, free market supporters, libertarians and such have all but lost their war on coercive big government. They are destined for failure to the extent they have lost America's Culture Wars.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63912722394970133612009-06-30T02:36:26.638-07:002009-06-30T02:36:26.638-07:00"That which desacralizes a given reality, its..."<i>That which desacralizes a given reality, itself in turn becomes the new sacred reality</i>." --Ellul<br /><br />Goodbye all.<br /><br />wv=warallDougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15587061614099035342009-06-29T21:23:21.485-07:002009-06-29T21:23:21.485-07:00More fun facts here! and here! not to mention her...More <a href="http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Zombie_Jesus" rel="nofollow">fun facts here</a>! and <a href="http://www.zombiejesus.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>! not to mention <a href="http://www.zombiejesusisback.com/trailer.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.goddinpottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13255965062433457372009-06-29T21:15:04.876-07:002009-06-29T21:15:04.876-07:00The difference is that zombies eat the bodies of t...The difference is that zombies eat the bodies of the living, but Jesus wants the living to eat <i>his</i> body. That's totally different!goddinpottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41367161728139189882009-06-29T20:40:32.813-07:002009-06-29T20:40:32.813-07:00Jesus is to zombie as Being is to non-being.
Life ...Jesus is to zombie as Being is to non-being.<br />Life is their common subject except that One has it and the other lacks it.<br />...at a minimum of course.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26121539578622622672009-06-29T19:58:13.100-07:002009-06-29T19:58:13.100-07:00Elephant quoted 'a question about a zombie bei...Elephant quoted 'a question about a zombie being someone who "rises from the dead" and is wondering what that would make Jesus.'<br /><br />It's remarks like that, in which I palpably feel the attempted destruction of all I care about... kinda sets me off.<br /><br />Leaving aside the obvious questions of religious sensibilities, or decency and respect for others, etc, I'd be curious to know why she'd make a comparison between a grotesque horror that people are revolted by and fear, and that which people idealize and revere? The very possible lowest, with the absolute highest?<br /><br />My bet is that she either didn't even think about it, or thought it was cute, a lark... <i>"jus' kiddn' an makin' a point', ya know?!"</i>. <br /><br />Well... pardon me everyone, while I make a horribly disgusting point - might want to click on by... ask her how she'd feel about using dog feces in place of her tampon? Hopefully she'd be shocked and disgusted by <i>that</i>. <br /><br />Ask her why she wasn't shocked by her 'point'? Ask her why it is that it takes something as devoid of higher thought and virtue as possible, why it took something that physically tangible and visceral to evoke disgust from her, yet the thought of comparing a stinking rotting corpse, oozing with wounds, hellishly staggering after people to rip apart and consume the flesh from their bodies - with that which people hold as the very highest, most holy person, the living embodiment of all the highest and purest ideals they have of what is good, beautiful and true - and not just as abstract concepts, but as their <i>God</i> - why didn't <i>that</i> faze her? <br /><br />How is it that such a thoughtless, insulting crudity, qualified as a witty lark?<br /><br />Is her mind so unused to higher thoughts of goodness and reverence, that she really has no capability of grasping the meaning or impact of her words?<br /><br />Who's the real zombie?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45098250204045595382009-06-29T19:20:44.085-07:002009-06-29T19:20:44.085-07:00You've made a compelling argument Gazriel. Ja...You've made a compelling argument Gazriel. Jackson was an innocuous <i>music</i> and <i>dance</i> icon. As a cultural icon in respect to parenting and children he seems less benign. However, Michael Jackson wasn't the first such fraud foisted by an entertainment industry on America. Recall Rock Hudson. Nor was he the first and only object of pop-deification, think the Beatles, Lady Di and of course Elvis.<br /><br />Nor was Michael Jackson the artistic progenitor of EMINEM. For that we'd have to look to black rappers, Beastie Boys and other edgy entertainers back to Lenny Bruce. EMINEM's cultural and thematic roots go back to <b>his</b> father who abandoned him early in life.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11870740527952948892009-06-29T19:00:50.423-07:002009-06-29T19:00:50.423-07:00Thanks, Petey.
I think part of the problem is t...Thanks, Petey. <br /><br />I think part of the problem is that she is looking at only the physical evidences and parallels, which is probably the problem to begin with. Her definitions of dead and alive need to be differentiated and enhanced. The first death v. the second death (death of the body, death of the soul); ears to hear, let him hear (two kinds of ears.) Etc... And yes she knows the Bible, so she has heard of such things. <br /><br />wv: balmi. Huh. Yeah. I guess so then!Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34108460957553181322009-06-29T18:49:32.925-07:002009-06-29T18:49:32.925-07:00A zombie is death in life. A saint is life in dea...A zombie is death in life. A saint is life in death.Peteynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6931958577043278672009-06-29T18:46:51.396-07:002009-06-29T18:46:51.396-07:00FYI: It wasn't a concern of people here looki...FYI: It wasn't a concern of people here looking it up; the FB crew, rather.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61298172886370019482009-06-29T18:44:45.833-07:002009-06-29T18:44:45.833-07:00Van, a quick question for you (or anyone else). I...Van, a quick question for you (or anyone else). I have a Facebook account and a friend just wrote a question about a zombie being someone who "rises from the dead" and is wondering what that would make Jesus. [Forgive the awkward wording; trying not to quote in case anyone searches for it by phrase (yes that's paranoia.)]<br /><br /><br />Hideous, horribly so. The answer is obvious to me (first of all a zombie does not rise from the dead) but I'm having a hard time verbalizing succinctly and potently. It is ticking me off to see such a blemish on reality, so I'm considering commenting, even though I think she is joking. What should I say, if I end up writing anything at all? It seems like an opportunity to explain or hint at something toward which she might be unconsciously be groping. If this is too lame or boring, feel free to disregard. Thanks.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58406705035073953502009-06-29T18:28:06.376-07:002009-06-29T18:28:06.376-07:00Well at least we can get Deepak's reflections ...Well at least we can get Deepak's reflections on it all:<br /><br />http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/deepak_chopra/2009/06/the_spirituality_of_michael_jackson.html?hpid=talkbox1Niggardly Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998145440801860527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10371155255946956192009-06-29T17:35:25.328-07:002009-06-29T17:35:25.328-07:00I think maybe a point of hierarchy is being missed...I think maybe a point of hierarchy is being missed here, in the who's more evil MJ or EM dispute.<br /><br />Ever read Dracula?<br /><br />His 'daughters' snatch young children out of their cradles, tear open their throats and feast on their blood. Awful and foul beyond belief.<br /><br />Dracula in the mean time, suave and romantic, dines in style and seduces Lucy little by little. Renfield, spider gobbling Renfield, is ready to do his masters dirty work, Dracula stays stylish and sorta clean.<br /><br />Which is worse? The gruesome sisters tearing out the throats of children, or the suave stylish one who creates and enables them?<br /><br />Which is more damaging, the bone chilling water which floods into, and sinks the ship, or the majestic iceberg which gashes open the hull of the ship, but leaves it alone after that?<br /><br />How did a creature such as EM ever get close to our kids? Em couldn't have stepped into the spotlight without others making such things cool, something helped to slowly turn up the heat on the frogs water to the boiling point.<br /><br /><i>"Thriller... thrilla... woo!"</i><br /><br />Is that unfair? Sure. True anyway? Yeah it is. Not just MJ of course, not by any means, but every stylish and cool icon who made a little more 'baddness' seem more cool and ok, helped gash our moral hull open a bit wider, so we could drown in the deadly cold waters of Em and the like. <br /><br />But of course don't forget the critical filth who enabled them by shifting the purposes of Art from Beauty to 'Edgy', as noted in <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_beauty.html" rel="nofollow">Beauty and Desecration</a> (Rogur Scruton, btw, if that reader is still lurking),<br /><br /><i>"So far as the critics and the wider culture were concerned, the pursuit of beauty was at the margins of the artistic enterprise. Qualities like disruptiveness and immorality, which previously signified aesthetic failure, became marks of success; while the pursuit of beauty became a retreat from the real task of artistic creation."</i> <br /><br />... or the the poets who agitated for <i>Being more Natural! Real! More authentic!</i>... or the philosophers who dispensed with the individual, with freedom, with choice of free will, or the ones before them (anyone? anyone? Bueler?) who dispensed with our ability to know reality at all, or before that, discarded with knowing that the improvement of mind and morals through civilization was possible (or good), asserted that property and marriage were in fact evils, that education should be determined by children - who were after all closer to nature than corrupt civilized adults (anyone? anyone?), or the one who enabled <i>that</i> thinking by thinking that he could think without a body, but doubted he could think without being (anyone?).<br /><br />Vampires and Zombies - they're not just for entertainment anymore.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-87053958982057420182009-06-29T15:27:27.551-07:002009-06-29T15:27:27.551-07:00The only thing I can remember about the Jacksons, ...The only thing I can remember about the Jacksons, growing up, was my very white fifth grade classmate G. Glasheen having a lunch box war with another very black classmate over the superiority of musical families: The Osmond Family vs. The Jackson Five. <br /><br />It involved smashing a Jackson 5 Lunchbox into an Osmond Family Lunchbox until one or the other's lunchbox fell apart. I don't remember who won the battle.<br /><br />In the intervening years I have been able to ignore Michael and family, except for the occassional shudder over his "We are the World" extravaganza, his pedophilia, his sham marriages and purchased children.<br /><br />I have to weep at the treatment of him by his father though. I hadn't heard of that before.<br /><br />But, with all his millions, couldn't he have done something about that? Some kind of counseling? Some kind of resolution: The abuse stops with me? <br /><br />There was a massive amount of enabling going on, as Dr. Bob points out.<br /><br />God have mercy on his soul.sehoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00398831051769112602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52394809509730642482009-06-29T14:13:04.636-07:002009-06-29T14:13:04.636-07:00River said..."EMINEM is at least entertaining...River said..."EMINEM is at least entertaining. Late MJ was just sad. That Eminem is more offensive lyrics-wise is neither here nor there; who is more offensive, the trailer-park guy who cusses or the gentlemanly well-polished pop star who wrecks his face into a caricature and seduces children?"<br /><br />Are you high?<br /><br />I am not talking about being offensive, I am talking about the dissemination of imagery into the minds of children that drains them of spirit, plants seeds of hatred, and teaches them to wallow in their own misery like selfish little brats. <br /><br />In that song I placed a link to, Em raps about murdering a person on stage while the crowd aplauds, then goes on to remark about butchering a woman in a bathtub while drinking her blood. And that is just the beginning. He is a lyrical wizard who is hypnotizing people by bragging about raping teenagers and being a serial kller.<br /><br />Yes, "Thriller" and "Bad" were sooo much worse for the kids, no? Jackson was innocuous cultural icon who lost his mind well after his career was spiraling downward. While he may have been perverted with some kids in is home, at least that damage was minimalized to a few children. What I am talking about with Eminem is the mental/emotional warping of 100,000kids or more.<br /><br />The Jackson case was tragic, the Eminem case is flat-out demonic.Gazrielnoreply@blogger.com