tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post115842264682286040..comments2024-03-29T06:03:45.545-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: The Fourteen Characteristics of Fascism: Is it Too Late for America?Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57813633675007175822009-11-17T16:05:53.886-08:002009-11-17T16:05:53.886-08:00lollolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166032902496129012006-12-13T10:01:00.000-08:002006-12-13T10:01:00.000-08:00Yes, this is a fascist state and I am the Minister...Yes, this is a fascist state and I am the Minister of Information. You are under arrest.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166031273599152872006-12-13T09:34:00.000-08:002006-12-13T09:34:00.000-08:00In this article called A FASCISM DEFINITION AS IT ...In this article called <A HREF="http://www.fdrs.org/fascism_definition.html" REL="nofollow">A FASCISM DEFINITION AS IT RELATES TO AMERICA</A>, it becomes quite clear that we are a fascist country. And as you can see from this article, we're already a <A HREF="http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm" REL="nofollow">police state</A>. The wheels are in motion for the United Nations to take away all semblance of American sovereignty. <A HREF="http://youtube.com/watch?v=1yaluBNYedo" REL="nofollow">See video for more on this</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1162440419834515652006-11-01T20:06:00.000-08:002006-11-01T20:06:00.000-08:00Let's see...Hitler benefited from the Reichstag bo...Let's see...Hitler benefited from the Reichstag bombing, a great public opinion bonanza that allowed him to create a unified authority to oversee homeland security eventually leading to the SS; steadily undermined the power of the German parliament so that eventually he became the Unitary Executive of Germany; activated various forms of propaganda tools (didn't our current administration get caught several times paying for secret editorial coverage of pet programs, particularly NCLB?)...tell me where the comparisons to the current Bush regime fall short, and why it's considered unwise to learn from historical precedent? If it's too late once it's here, why not be forewarned and forearmed?<BR/><BR/>It's easy to dismiss people who have views that don't fit our own carefully worked out ways of seeing our universe, spiritual or not. On the other hand, it's probably a bit more beneficial to society if we honestly consider the implications of what people are saying that don't agree with us.<BR/><BR/>I certainly understand the viewpoint of those who think some people over-exaggerate the negatives of a particular leader. I can't remember a president in my time back to Eisenhower that wasn't villified by some segment of society. It helps keep us all a little bit more circumspect about the people we elect to represent us. On the other hand, I have trouble remembering any administration in the past that has done more harm to our Constitution and our reputation in the world than this one.<BR/><BR/>Of course, there are always people in the world who see things as <B>Us vs. Them</B>, and the current administration seems intent on fanning that fire as much as they can because it suits their opportunistic view of the world. However, truly spiritual beings move beyond this simplistic division and see us all as sharing the same essence as human being in a fathomless universe. Truly spiritual beings don't need to manipulate others with rhetorical devices and ad hominem arguments because they know they're lost once they travel that tempting path.<BR/><BR/>I've heard Christians insist, for example, that even other denominations of Christendom don't "worship the same God as I do," not to mention Jews and Muslims. But if a Creator God created the universe and everything within it, and a good person is properly worshipping their form of creator god, wouldn't the real Creator God see them as worshiping himself/herself under a different name, or is the name the most important thing? Like Party ahead of Nation, do we worship doctrines ahead of Divinity?<BR/><BR/>I've yet to get a reasoned response to such questions, but I'm still hoping someone with a strong view supporting these petty human divisions will explain it in a reasonable manner. I usually get assertions such as "well of course it's a different god!" and "but I and my religion have the only TRUE beliefs!" - and that covers it for that person...<BR/><BR/>But not for me.<BR/><BR/>Sadly, as in many of the comments posted to this assertion-filled critique of the so-called 14 fascism characteristics, many are completely backwards to reality. For example, one commenter said that fascism is a form of leftism, and another said that many died because of socialism. Both of these assertions are simply not true.<BR/><BR/>First, if one defines socialism as leftist, then fascism has to be on the opposite end of the continuum. They can't both be leftist. The term "right-wing dictatorship" is a common synonym for a fascist government, for example. Think of the continuum running from complete totalitarian on one end to complete anarchy on the other: right-wing leads toward the former and left-wing leads toward the latter. Pure democracy is closer to anarchy (i.e. left-wing broadening of power) and pure fascism is closer toward totalitarianism (i.e. right-wing, concentration of power). <BR/><BR/>Second, socialism is an economic system (remember Econ 101 "controls the means of production"?), while fascism is about governance and rule - like the "-cracy" in all those other words: democracy, plutocracy, aristocracy. So, to call socialism left-wing is kinda strange...even though it does appeal to leftists. Is capitalism right-wing because it appeals to right-wingers? Absurdist argument!<BR/><BR/>Fascism is based on political power held by a small ruling class who have no other claim to power other than power itself. As such, it's probably closest to plutocracy but without the social stratum implied for plutocrats. What it really has always been is legal thuggery.<BR/><BR/>Third, there has never been a real example of a socialist nation in the world unless it's a tiny island nation, because the economics of socialism go against the natural instincts of humanity in large groups. Those that have claimed to be large socialist states have had to resort to authoritarian control to make it all work. So it's authoritarian/totalitarian governments that have caused the deaths of millions, not precisely the economic system of socialism. <BR/><BR/>Of course, my assertions of all of this are fairly open to question even by those who are unwilling to check out what I'm saying. I've no fear of letting others fact check my comments, and even if it doesn't convince them, at least they've tried, and perhaps learned something.<BR/><BR/>Bottom line: civilization has battled between two poles on the same continuum for millennia. On one side are those who stand up for the absolute right of individual control and power to exercise in ways they see fit for themselves vs. on the other side those who stand up for the strength of the community in its recognition that we are stronger together than we are separately, and need strong rules and principles to live by in order to survive. <BR/><BR/>In basic short hand, it comes down to <B>freedom</B> vs. <B>responsibility</B>. They are <B><I>not</I></B> mutually exclusive but they must always be balanced. Here's where the current debate, as exemplified in this post and its comments, shows that those who support the current administration are more confused than they realize.<BR/><BR/>Republicans, when I was part of the party, traditionally emphasized personal freedom and responsibility, which is a balanced viewpoint. They wanted limited government, meaning that having less of it meant less intrusion in the business of individuals, and they wanted honorable, accountable representation in government. What's interesting now is the modern Republicans' discourse that supports the individuals in government and their freedom to do what they want - <I>even if it means MORE government, MORE intrusion in our personal lives</I> - and of course, even if it means this government could start moving toward fascism in a heartbeat. The current leadership have all abandoned personal responsibility (most recently the Foley scandal, but not the first) and the former ideals of the party, yet the nominal Republicans have not abandoned these fools.<BR/><BR/>That's how Hitler did it - efficiently, and legally, and with the blessings of the cultural elite. And when these supporters finally woke up and started asking real questions about the people they'd happily handed over the keys to, it WAS too late.<BR/><BR/>The problem with smaller government, that requires a deft and balanced hand to administer, is that it concentrates more power in fewer hands, which means less representation of the People in our halls of government, and more potential for abuse. The framers of our Constitution recognized this potential abuse - after all, they'd just dealt with a capricious monarch prior to seceding from Great Britain - and built in protections that even a devil in office could not get around. <BR/><BR/>Good government is not a pretty, efficient entity. It's messy but it's chief hallmark is that it tries to be fair and representative of the people.<BR/><BR/>This is why the old Republican Party was always strongly on the side of laws that are interpreted properly, and the Democrats were always the ones looking for new "liberal" interpretations. That's flipped, too, especially with Bush's 700+ "signing statements" that indicate just how little faith he has in the rule of law, and how much he chooses to liberally interpret laws developed by the legislative branch.<BR/><BR/>This is why I can't be part of this so-called Republican Party anymore, and why the possibilities of fascist dictatorship (i.e sole power held in the hands of one person) are not that far off with this crowd.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like comparisons with Hitler, how about Napoleon? Checked back lately as to why he was placed in exile in the first place? Could it have had anything to do with his abandonment of a republic in France and its replacement with a hereditary monarchy, establishing him as emperor? Could his subsequent expansionist aggression in Europe have caused other sovereignties in the area to band together to get rid of him?<BR/><BR/>Wow, where is that happening these days? Not Iraq!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1160746922767911532006-10-13T06:42:00.000-07:002006-10-13T06:42:00.000-07:00Gagdad Boba is either a Zionist Pseudo Jew Khazar ...Gagdad Boba is either a Zionist Pseudo Jew Khazar Capitalist and Communist Comrade Commissar self sainted God Chosen Racist or one of their millions of mass media indoctrinated stooges who is unaware that he his describing the tenets of Fascist hating Zionism whose world Wide Webbed Imperium of Usury is turning the world's countries into its multi mixed race cheap labor and war fodder colonies to rule from Je(w)rusalemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1159211671883379392006-09-25T12:14:00.000-07:002006-09-25T12:14:00.000-07:00Geez - with Clinton being such a pathological narc...Geez - with Clinton being such a pathological narcissist as he is (and Hillary too, it would seem), and all this talk about narcissistic parents, makes me wonder about Chelsea's mental health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158850841162394512006-09-21T08:00:00.000-07:002006-09-21T08:00:00.000-07:00Sorry AVI :)I spend too much time either over at B...Sorry AVI :)<BR/><BR/>I spend too much time either over at BlameBush or inside my own head. Sometimes the multiple personalities get the best of me.Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158715996722060652006-09-19T18:33:00.000-07:002006-09-19T18:33:00.000-07:00Princess Leia - I followed the link after posting...Princess Leia - I followed the link after posting. I should have guessed.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158715927279057522006-09-19T18:32:00.000-07:002006-09-19T18:32:00.000-07:00Anonymous, as you are doing a mock expression of w...Anonymous, as you are doing a mock expression of what kahntheroad thinks, then I would submit that of your comment, all the italicised parts are an exaggeration. Much of the rest in inaccurate, but that's different.<BR/><BR/>"Yes, kahntheroad, it's <I>absolutely inconceivable that any right thinking American could believe for even a nanosecond, much less feel upset over the possibility,</I> that Bush lied to us about WMD's and other things concerning his reasons for ordering an attack on Iraq; could <I>ridiculously trouble himself over such trivial matters</I> as whether the Bush administration is obeying the rule of domestic law in its <I>inexorable pursuit of truth, justice, and father...I mean homeland security;</I> and could be the <I>tiniest bit</I> concerned with our flouting international law and losing international goodwill. After all, <I>we are aligned with the forces of all that is good and pure and holy, and everyone who isn't with us is against us and alinged with the powers and principalities of evil and deserves our unbridled and contemptuous defiance and, if necessary, ballistic persuasion regarding their error of their unholy ways.</I><BR/><BR/>Princess Leia in a cheese danish bikini - that is an image I am going to have trouble getting out of my mind. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>dicentra63 - I like those definitions. Fascism has such enormous connotative meanings that its denotative meanings are pushed to the background. Therefore, I like your informal definitions better than the formal ones.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158633280258758982006-09-18T19:34:00.000-07:002006-09-18T19:34:00.000-07:00This post is on the wings of the internet, let it ...This post is on the wings of the internet, let it fly. I have linked it and sent it to my friends, Brilliant absolutely brilliant. The question , can the Conservative Movement catch the wave of public sentiment, it ain't loonbatty, it's center right?Goathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263194970690639096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158632511483086152006-09-18T19:21:00.000-07:002006-09-18T19:21:00.000-07:00Frankly, there was nothing wrong with the (Webster...Frankly, there was nothing wrong with the (Webster's) dictionary definition:<BR/><BR/>"A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158629581198964292006-09-18T18:33:00.000-07:002006-09-18T18:33:00.000-07:00Where did these definitions of fascism come from? ...Where did these definitions of fascism come from? It seems to me that the definitions offered are too broad to be useful.<BR/><BR/>I'd propose the following instead:<BR/><BR/>Obsession with past or future glory, a flawless society that we can get to if we'd all just work together (read: think alike).<BR/><BR/>A privileging of a particular identity (religious, racial, political) as unquestionably superior to the rest.<BR/><BR/>The "urge to purge" all of the inferior members from the society, because they're holding up the whole operation.<BR/><BR/>Obsession with conformity of thought, with "wrong-thinkers" punished by imprisonment or "disappearance."<BR/><BR/>Extremely severe social or even official pressure to narc on your noncompliant neighbors so that they can be dealt with.<BR/><BR/>Secret police who can take anyone, anytime, for any reason, and make that person disappear.<BR/><BR/>Paranoid delusions about the Other, who is powerful enough to control the freakin' weather, and therefore must be Taken Out.<BR/><BR/>Faked, staged, and fabricated news that is held to be "true anyway" when its fakeness is exposed.<BR/><BR/>Any more?dicentra63https://www.blogger.com/profile/18265008441951516140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158549985575568782006-09-17T20:26:00.000-07:002006-09-17T20:26:00.000-07:00If you doubt that leftism can be fascist then stud...If you doubt that leftism can be fascist then study up on HG Wells who is one of the founders of modern liberal fascism.<BR/><BR/>H.G. Wells was a socialist, or to put it in his own words, a "liberal fascist." His visions of the future were often profoundly prophetic and much of his liberal philosophy is embraced today by the left. He even predicted that a new field of inquiry, which he termed Social Psychology, would arise and become the "soul of the race" by developing social control techniques which would systematically re-train the masses which he openly despised. And, following WW II, the core of British and American psychological warfare leadership created just such field to pursue worldwide social engineering.<BR/><BR/>He also spoke of a time when it would be inevitable that world powers would sacrifice a degree of sovereignty and join together to form a liberal utopian world under international law. <BR/><BR/>He wrote a book which he called "The Open Conspiracy" that contained a plan to bring this about and in the 1930’s he considered Russia, Germany, and the USA as agents of change to implement his plan but he realized and wrote that the time was not ready. There would be a long and gradual process of social change before the world would be ready. <BR/><BR/>Wells was offered allegiance to his "Open Conspiracy" by native British fascist, Oswald Moseley, but he rejected the offer pointing out that, "what we need is some more liberal fascists."<BR/><BR/>I have contended for a long time that modern liberalism came into being in the elitist intellectual circles near the turn of the 19th century. It was progressed in the early 20th century and many splinter groups were formed, one of which was the Nazi Party and another was Mussolini‘s Fascist Party. <BR/><BR/>Liberals today weather they realize it or not are pushing for a Wellsian society.<BR/><BR/>Here is what Wells wrote in 1939 in his book “The New World Order”<BR/><BR/>Quote: <BR/> "... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." -- H. G. Wells, in his book entitled "The New World Order" (1939)<BR/><BR/>It is not something that I say lightly but I am convinced that devout liberals are fascist without the balls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158517129767708042006-09-17T11:18:00.000-07:002006-09-17T11:18:00.000-07:00OBloodyHell,Good retorts, & thanks for ref'ing moo...OBloodyHell,<BR/>Good retorts, & thanks for ref'ing moonbat speaks Global Warming silliness, I was just too tired. <BR/><BR/>I actually looked into that religion early on, but discovered the ritual sacrifice of reason to be too boring, and the "Industry is EVIL, Technology is EVIL, America is EVIL, Capitalism is EVIL" mantras to be too lacking in rhythym & imagination to be of much comfort.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158501902939083862006-09-17T07:05:00.000-07:002006-09-17T07:05:00.000-07:00OBH, what makes you think I'm being sarcastic? Wh...OBH, what makes you think I'm being sarcastic? What have I stated with which you and Gagdad and every single Bobblehead worthy of the designation does not agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158496867044125272006-09-17T05:41:00.000-07:002006-09-17T05:41:00.000-07:00I just snorted an entire mug of coffee. I blame Ru...I just snorted an entire mug of coffee. I blame Rumsfeld and an uncaring Bush administration.<BR/><BR/>(*&^% Fascists...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158492199294283452006-09-17T04:23:00.000-07:002006-09-17T04:23:00.000-07:00> and think it through for a few minutes,Kahnthero...> and think it through for a few minutes,<BR/><BR/>Kahntheroad, your mistake is in using the above word. <BR/><BR/>S/He has no better grasp of the concepts surrounding the word "think" than S/He does of those surrounding the word "lie"OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158491985071033102006-09-17T04:19:00.000-07:002006-09-17T04:19:00.000-07:00> any right thinking American could believe for ev...> any right thinking American could believe for even a nanosecond, much less feel upset over the possibility, that Bush lied to us about WMD's<BR/><BR/>Any *right* thinking American certainly wouldn't. <BR/><BR/>Any *correct* thinking American actually grasps the difference between statements made in error and lies.<BR/><BR/>You, of course, are <B>neither</B>.<BR/><BR/>I guess it all depends on what you mean by "lies" -- right?<BR/><BR/>"No, I did not get **multiple blowjobs** from that woman".<BR/><BR/>Yeah, one can see the source of your confusion.OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158491726689583862006-09-17T04:15:00.000-07:002006-09-17T04:15:00.000-07:00> we need to remind ourselves with countless more ...> we need to remind ourselves with countless more posts and rounds of comments about this godawful menace.<BR/><BR/>As you yourself may serve to demonstrate, one can never underestimate the power of human stupidity.<BR/><BR/>All those vast postings to draw from, yet the best retort you can come up with is mindless sarcasm without a whit of rational refutation.<BR/><BR/>Pope said it best:<BR/><BR/><B> Sir, I admit your gen'ral rule,<BR/> that every poet is a fool;<BR/> but you yourself may serve to show it,<BR/> that every fool is not a poet.</B><BR/> - Alexander Pope -OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158491429824710212006-09-17T04:10:00.000-07:002006-09-17T04:10:00.000-07:00> For instance, do you really not believe in globa...> For instance, do you really not believe in global warming?<BR/><BR/>No one with the slightest semblance of a brain believes in man-made global warming based on any currently available evidence, and most of the ones who *actually* know anything of the subject (i.e., specialists in the field of causal climatology) question even the generalized notion of it.OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158483420120254702006-09-17T01:57:00.000-07:002006-09-17T01:57:00.000-07:00Overblown rhetoric by those who ignore reality.EVe...Overblown rhetoric by those who ignore reality.<BR/>EVen in the Philippines, where reporters who insult people are sometimes assassinated, the press is free, and you can talk against GMA without arrest...<BR/>In a true fascist regieme, you are put in a concentration camp for making a joke, deported for treating a wounded man, or sent to prison for preaching an anti government sermon, or "disappear" for writing a blog...Nancy Reyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910134058143426327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158472380940603182006-09-16T22:53:00.000-07:002006-09-16T22:53:00.000-07:00AVI, whose position have I exaggerated and how?AVI, whose position have I exaggerated and how?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158471603008685302006-09-16T22:40:00.000-07:002006-09-16T22:40:00.000-07:00believe for even a nanosecond, much less feel upse...<I>believe for even a nanosecond, much less feel upset over the possibility, that Bush lied to us about WMD's and other things concerning his reasons for ordering an attack on Iraq</I><BR/><BR/>Anonymous, perhaps if there was the slightest bit of credible evidence that Bush actually "<I>lied</I> us into a war," let alone an actual motive - plausible outside the Marvel Comics Universe - for <I>why</I> he would do such a thing and what he had to gain. <BR/><BR/>I know many conservatives who had reservations about the Iraq war, and I've heard - from both sides - many reasonable critiques of how the war and post-war was handled, etc. I hate to break it to you, but it <I>is</I> possible to oppose Bush's policies without resorting to mindbending conspiracies. Seriously, try it. Take any one of your favorite allegations against Bush - "He wanted oil!!!" "He wanted to make money for Halliburton!!!" "He wanted to avenge his Daddy!!" "The Jews are controling his mind!!!" - and think it through for a few minutes, ponder what would actually be involved in such plans, and sincerely ask yourself if there's, perhaps, a simpler explanation. Such as that Bush - for better or worse - believed this was the appropriate action to take for the country and you - and many others - happen to disagree. <BR/><BR/>But yeah, I know, it's not nearly as much fun as pretending to live in a Scooby Doo cartoon; where there's a big scaaaaaary conspiracy going on and only you, your stoner friends and your favorite musicians and celebrities are smart enough to uncover it.<BR/><BR/><I>flouting international law and losing international goodwill.</I><BR/><BR/><I>After all, we are aligned with the forces of all that is good and pure and holy, and everyone who isn't with us is against us and alinged with the powers and principalities of evil and deserves our unbridled and contemptuous defiance and, if necessary, ballistic persuasion regarding their error of their unholy ways.</I><BR/><BR/>Wow! It's refreshing to hear a liberal so candid with his true attitude towards conservative ideas!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158468693862225662006-09-16T21:51:00.000-07:002006-09-16T21:51:00.000-07:00Gagdad - LOL!Anonymous & moonbat speaks - LOL! (oh...Gagdad - LOL!<BR/>Anonymous & moonbat speaks - LOL! (oh... sorry, you two were serious weren't you?... LOL!)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1158467520751392972006-09-16T21:32:00.000-07:002006-09-16T21:32:00.000-07:00I'm reading Through Hell for Hitler written by a l...I'm reading Through Hell for Hitler written by a landser who served in panzers on the Eastern Front. They could be shot for listening to the BBC. Hey, not a bad idea, but I digress...<BR/><BR/>We're nowhere near, not in spitting distance, or approaching, fascism. Not to get all Tim McVeigh or anything, but the assault on Waco with military vehicles was about as close as we've been since FDR's war powers, which still wasn't close.<BR/><BR/>Like porn, you'll know real fascism when it appears. But of course it's usually too late by then. So everyone panic, abandon reason, and act paranoid all the time!<BR/><BR/>Ah, I see the Left is ahead of me on that one. <BR/><BR/>"Lied about WMD's..." <BR/><BR/>It's the largest conspiracy in world history, I tell you. Even the French thought Saddam had more than the chemical warheads found in Iraq.Chiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07972876880559981372noreply@blogger.com