tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post115608819655142547..comments2024-03-18T21:33:35.309-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Thou Shalt Not Murder, Especially Souls (8.23.08)Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84373162785627487712009-10-25T23:42:25.722-07:002009-10-25T23:42:25.722-07:00Every day in every way, Ann Coulter's 9/13 pre...Every day in every way, Ann Coulter's 9/13 <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter.shtml" rel="nofollow">prescription</a> gets better and better.<br /> Micha Elyinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156673943332355372006-08-27T03:19:00.000-07:002006-08-27T03:19:00.000-07:00Looks like the HTML tags got botched. Here is the ...Looks like the HTML tags got botched. Here is the quote from your post I was referring to:<BR/><BR/>"In this regard, the Izlambies are no different than Jeffrey Dahmer, who would attempt to have an orgasm at the exact moment his victim was dying, the idea being that the victim's life force would somehow pass into him."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156673854829425702006-08-27T03:17:00.000-07:002006-08-27T03:17:00.000-07:00In this regard, the Izlambies are no different tha...<I>In this regard, the Izlambies are no different than Jeffrey Dahmer, who would attempt to have an orgasm at the exact moment his victim was dying, the idea being that the victim's life force would somehow pass into him.</I><BR/><BR/>gagdad bob: this is a fascinating delusion, given that the male orgasm by it's nature transmits life to another (or at least causes it to exit from the man). Dahmer was, I would guess, confusing his interior sense of exaltation and his physical satisfaction with vitality. That seems a perversion in itself, the root from which his necro-eroticism comes from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156273538867050652006-08-22T12:05:00.000-07:002006-08-22T12:05:00.000-07:00In April of this year the Dalai Lama met with "Mod...In April of this year the Dalai Lama met with "Moderate Muslims" who sought his help with, in the words of the Friends of Tibet news release, "...quelling ideologies within Islamic communities and improving the faith's declining image in the West."<BR/><BR/>The Dalai, as he had stated back in 2003, restated his belief that while "Some people have an impression the Islam is militant"... he believed<BR/>that "...this is totally wrong. Islam is one of the world's great religions and it carries, basically, a message of love and compassion." How he can be so blind to the kind of soul murderers you are discussing here really floored me.<BR/><BR/>Several years ago I was fortunate enough to meet the Dalai Lama at a reception. I shook his hand and looked into his eyes--I tried but detected no aura of holiness surrounding this "avatar of Avalokiteshvara." To outward appearances, he is a very merry man and, from what I have read, he is extremely well educated in his tradition. I admire him for his commitment to non-violence and compassion, however misguided I believe it to be with regard to the PRC. <BR/><BR/>However, his statement about Islam leads me to question his judgment across the board and to wonder if the man I thought very shrewd is not really just an amiable fool, just another useful idiot. The Chinese have tried and, I believe, are slowly succeeding in exterminating his religion and ethnic Tibetans as well. I'm just wondering how many useful religious idiots we have in this country who will maintain that Islam is the "Religion of Peace" even as we go under the knives of the Jihadis.snowonpinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473699257588152564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156189875348615702006-08-21T12:51:00.000-07:002006-08-21T12:51:00.000-07:00No! "Petey and Bob."No! "Petey and Bob."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156189830341688522006-08-21T12:50:00.000-07:002006-08-21T12:50:00.000-07:00"Another priceless gem of spiritual insight, broug..."Another priceless gem of spiritual insight, brought to you by Bob and Petey" would be fine.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156189188036828482006-08-21T12:39:00.000-07:002006-08-21T12:39:00.000-07:00Dilys -You looked me up! I'm honored.Tonight - Kin...Dilys -<BR/>You looked me up! I'm honored.<BR/>Tonight - King Ranch casserole.<BR/><BR/>Um, Bob- if I quote you on a card to stick in one of daughter's books, would you like to be "Robert Godwin", 'Gagdad Bob' or something else? Please advise...Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13201226644704622876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156181440166402162006-08-21T10:30:00.000-07:002006-08-21T10:30:00.000-07:00Boy is Anonymous going to be upset when they find ...Boy is Anonymous going to be upset when they find out that they really are murderers because plants are conscious beings that have feelings of some sort.<BR/><BR/>There was an experiment done (didn't look up details, but feel free to do your own research) that put monitors on plants in a research lab. One night, one of the lab technicians came in with a mask on and viciously destroyed one of the plants and ran out of the lab. The next day, different people came into the lab. The readings on the plants were off the chart when the technician that killed a plant came into the room!<BR/><BR/>So, really, vege anon, are you really any better than the rest of us? You may be more malnourished (which is apparent from your lack of reasoning)but save your false sense of superiority and get over yourself! You pompous twit!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04969685296436358865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156178953630245852006-08-21T09:49:00.000-07:002006-08-21T09:49:00.000-07:00Robert--Yes, what you say goes without saying, and...Robert--<BR/><BR/>Yes, what you say goes without saying, and therefore cannot be said enough. I try to focus more on things that require some additional saying, since they don't go without it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156178646705464452006-08-21T09:44:00.000-07:002006-08-21T09:44:00.000-07:00I am surprised no one has mentioned Genesis 9:6, r...I am surprised no one has mentioned Genesis 9:6, right after the flood, only 8 people exist, God is speaking:<BR/><BR/>"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image."<BR/><BR/>Human life, (carrying God's own image) is so precious that the intentional, unjustified taking of it, justifies taking the life of the murder. And it isn't God that is to carry out the penalty, but other people.<BR/><BR/>To me this is the moral ground for not only the death-penalty, but for military, just-wars and policemen carrying guns. In fact, for the existence of civil government at all.<BR/><BR/>A conservative christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156171554731408592006-08-21T07:45:00.000-07:002006-08-21T07:45:00.000-07:00"Taking life is easy, but getting it back when you..."Taking life is easy, but getting it back when you realised you made a mistake isn't so easy."<BR/><BR/>Giving over and corrupting Western civilization is easy, but getting it back when you realised you made a mistake isn't so easy. How many centuries do you have to spare?<BR/><BR/>With a hat-tip to Gaude, where, <EM>where</EM> are the grandmas' inexpensive cornflower-decorated mass-produced pyrex baking dishes from the midwestern corners of Mohammedandom? Are <A HREF="http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=14884" REL="nofollow">Julia Child's Boeuf en Daube knives</A> contraband Infidel weapons? (I think we already know Martha will be dhimmi...)<BR/><BR/>Bob's separate planets policy sounds good. New planets appear daily it seems. Perhaps there's one where there's no crime but intolerance, let's call it Dystopia. Will could call it Exile, while Anonymous (the longwinded stone-caster, not the other one) could call it whatever his morality dictates. Let the universal diversity of cultures flourish.<BR/><BR/>Whew. What a solution! Could be in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize, with the right media sponsors. Fortunately, Reuters has procured an on-site stringer photo showing how it all works. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156168817536246812006-08-21T07:00:00.000-07:002006-08-21T07:00:00.000-07:00Anonymous--We'll just have to agree to live on dif...Anonymous--<BR/><BR/>We'll just have to agree to live on different planets.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156165607843523592006-08-21T06:06:00.000-07:002006-08-21T06:06:00.000-07:00Life affirming:Yesterday on the feast of St. Berna...Life affirming:<BR/>Yesterday on the feast of St. Bernard, three novices - Bros. Ambrose, Thomas and Ignatius - made their temporary vows, binding themselves to poverty, chastity and obedience, and stability to their community. <BR/><BR/>They read their vows before the congregation, signed them on the altar and gave them over to Father Abbot. Then they were clothed with the black scapular of the Cistercians, over the white habit they wore as novices.<BR/>Two new novices had been received on Saturday, the vigil of the feast. Their community replenishes itself slowly, but surely.<BR/><BR/>Fr. Abbot, in his address, emphasized that the religious life cannot be lived out of one's own strength. That would doom it to failure. All our vocations can only be fulfilled by cooperation with grace.<BR/><BR/>It's not always easy to understand Fr. - he's quite old and his English is heavily accented. He is one of the original group who left Hungary to escape the Communists and found a refuge here in the U.S.<BR/>A very touching - and awe-ful - event.<BR/><BR/>We're off tomorrow to take youngest D. to college. With luck, our hotels will have public computers. A day without OC is like a day without something new to ponder!Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13201226644704622876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156146419925319962006-08-21T00:46:00.000-07:002006-08-21T00:46:00.000-07:00'what do you eat?'I'm vegetarian. Yes ok, I kill p...'what do you eat?'<BR/>I'm vegetarian. Yes ok, I kill plants. Plants aren't conscious beings. However I spoke in reference to killing humans, which is on a different scale. Only God has the right to take a human life. Who are you to jugde? Taking life is easy, but giving it back when you realised you made a mistake isn't so easy. If morality gives a good answer, why, for exaample does my morality differ from yours and who is right. I believe that only God knows the truth on these matters, they are too complex for us, and killing isn't necessary. ' He without sin cast the first stone.'<BR/>God can have a purpose for murderers - take a religious terrorist like Saul, later St Paul. How do you know who does not have the potential to act as God's agent in the future? I'm assuming your Christian, If your a Jew consider Moses.<BR/><BR/>Just war, I don't believe there is such a thing. But taak the Iraq war and St Aquinas's theory <BR/>'In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged...Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault...Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention'<BR/>Take the Iraq war. <BR/>1. The american government authorised it, although the UN didn't I suppose that is acceptable <BR/>2. There was no justification, had they had proof of weapons of mass destruction from the UN, maybe but they didn't wait<BR/>3. Most soldiers I know think killing is a nit of fun. The Belligerents in question have treated the Iraqi's like animals and killed more people than necessary. Theydo not 'love their enemy' in the sense Aquinas required - nor does the american media or government. By this I mean giving due respect to the innocent people and not bombing arbitrarily, fueling Islamophobia or using blanket terms like 'terrorist' very unspecifically to scare people into supporting the war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156145254872126672006-08-21T00:27:00.000-07:002006-08-21T00:27:00.000-07:00anagrams for LEE MARVIN:I, LEVER MANI'M LA? NEVER!...anagrams for LEE MARVIN:<BR/><BR/>I, LEVER MAN<BR/><BR/>I'M LA? NEVER!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156138223082741072006-08-20T22:30:00.000-07:002006-08-20T22:30:00.000-07:00Another post, overflowing with wisdom, Bob!Self de...Another post, overflowing with wisdom, Bob!<BR/>Self defense is not murder.<BR/>We should all have the courage to defend liberty and life.<BR/>Bob mentioned the Dirty Dozen (great movie!), and many of us might consider defending our nation is a dirty job, and it is, in the physical, horizontal sense.<BR/>But in the spiritual, vertical sense, it is a high calling.<BR/>Yes, killing bad guys who want to murder, rape and pillage, is a high calling, and is expected, endorsed and approved by God. <BR/>Pacifism is anti-Christ and anti-G-d.<BR/>Defending life and liberty is our duty,<BR/>and a high honor indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156126748300516132006-08-20T19:19:00.000-07:002006-08-20T19:19:00.000-07:00I just saw "The Dirty Dozen" on TV, and it gave me...I just saw "The Dirty Dozen" on TV, and it gave me an idea, perhaps something the prophets hadn't considered.... I don't have time to go into all the details, but Lee Marvin would be the decider....Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156126467831677062006-08-20T19:14:00.000-07:002006-08-20T19:14:00.000-07:00>> who decide who goes into exile?>>Well, Gekko, h...>> who decide who goes into exile?>><BR/><BR/>Well, Gekko, how about those of whom you say are "putting themselves in harms way on the front lines in the relentless fight for Truth"? The righteous decide, in other words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156124067099126192006-08-20T18:34:00.000-07:002006-08-20T18:34:00.000-07:00If they get to med school after this great educati...If they get to med school after this great education they learn clitorectomies and how to sew up eleven year old girls. I'm sizzling with unconditional hate for <BR/>these creeps. Jimmy Carter is just plain nuts and a traitor. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest, Gagdad.Geckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11150958111957262924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156123527350762532006-08-20T18:25:00.000-07:002006-08-20T18:25:00.000-07:00Oh Will, puleeze not more polutants to the Pacific...Oh Will, puleeze not more polutants to the Pacific islands where evil funds a tribal envy propelled by drugs and its money into the twenty-first century where ,if you are in Hawaii you maybe get thrown into into a jail (where your cousin is sure to gt you out as he is a judge) and where various gangs jockey for power, work out, go to therapy, get their teeth cleaned, get a minister, rabbi, even an iman to counsel them and learn the tricks of a dark world. W The dregs are contained momentarily with access to computers and libraries. So. I gotta' admit. you do offer an interesting solution which works from a vertical point of view, and a utopian one but then who decide who goes into exile? The victor, I would think. Then there's Iran,and thank you Gumshoe for the Commentary piece you recommended. As the head Bobblehead has declared, these sure are nail bittin' times. Gotta' love all those praying and chanting and in particular those putting themselves in harms way on the front lines in the relentless fight for Truth.Geckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11150958111957262924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156123444302129452006-08-20T18:24:00.000-07:002006-08-20T18:24:00.000-07:00The purpose of school in the Muslim world? To tea...The purpose of school in the Muslim world? To teach the classics--you know, things like Mein Kampf, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the complete works of Noam Chomsky, the oratory of Jimmy Carter, etc.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156104955019125192006-08-20T13:15:00.000-07:002006-08-20T13:15:00.000-07:00I generally think that the putting to death of the...I generally think that the putting to death of the most heinous criminals - the serial killers, the thrill killers and the like - is overall a life-affirming act. It's a way of saying, we expunge evil from our midst, thereby affirming, as Schuon puts it, the Sovereign Good.<BR/><BR/>However, I can't entirely turn away from the Church's perspective that, as long as a soul remains corporeal, there is the chance that, no matter how hardened the heart, a criminal might repent and turn to the Light. It does happen on rare occasion. For example, St Francis accepted a repentant murderer into his order. <BR/><BR/>I suppose the question is: how is evil expunged, understood to be expunged from the Sovereign Good, while saving space for the criminal's possible repentance. In traditions past, the solution was "exile" from the tribe. Murderers, those who had profound spiritual illnesses and who were understood to be harmful to the tribe's spiritual well-being, were exiled, thrown out - which could easily be tantamount to a death sentence at the hands of predators and the elements. <BR/><BR/>Today's criminal justice system nowhere amounts to the old penalty of exile, though many may be under the impression that it does. So, is a form of exile possible in the modern age? What, in lieau of the death penalty, could serve?<BR/><BR/>What if the worst criminals - I don't mean check forgerers, etc. - were taken to a Pacific atoll and left there with only basic raw veggies and water and nothing else? No TV, no libraries, no chance of escape, no visits from relatives, and definitely no lawyers. Let them form their own anti-society if they wish. If they wish to adhere to some form of self-imposed civilized behavior, fine. If they wish to kill each other, their choice. But bottom line, they are completely separated from the Sovereign Good and we are rid of them. Exile. And if during their remaining earthly days any of them spiritually repent, well, they have been allowed the chance to do that. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure there's many who would yawp about the "barbarism" of such a penalty, but, as rough as it could be, there was an essential wisdom - and spiritual justice - to the old penalty of exile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156100679329847692006-08-20T12:04:00.000-07:002006-08-20T12:04:00.000-07:00"lie roasted academia nuts" defending "....hizb'mo..."lie roasted academia nuts" defending "....hizb'moloch... Izlambies."<BR/><BR/>Indeed, indeed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156100018588413122006-08-20T11:53:00.000-07:002006-08-20T11:53:00.000-07:00>>The undead also cannot help converting their chi...>>The undead also cannot help converting their children to their way of non-being. In ways both subtle and profound, they will interact with their children in a pathological manner, causing the children to internalize the same virus that afflicts their parents.<<<BR/><BR/>I think there's a kind of "higher semiotics" - if we can comprehend it - that can convey messages regarding the spiritual state of the world and the encroachments of meta-evil. It's a form of synchronicity, in a way. <BR/><BR/>In the wake of this horrible "Hizbollah victory" in which world-wide evil has received a booster shot of encouragement - is there a message in the fact that suddenly a classically creepy child molestor-type emerges from the shadows and onto the global stage, taking credit for murdering the Ramsey child ten years ago? <BR/><BR/>Two seemingly differing stories, but yoked together in one basic theme, one message that perhaps we're intended to understand as being such - the murdering of innocence, the anti-spirit intensifying, and the need for the righteous to recognize and combat it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156098003649631852006-08-20T11:20:00.000-07:002006-08-20T11:20:00.000-07:00anonymous - see if you can find the buddhist tale ...anonymous - <BR/><BR/>see if you can find the buddhist tale of the monk traveling by boat...<BR/><BR/>each morning,after sailing by night,three or four passengers turn up dead...gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567181585153569751noreply@blogger.com