tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post115504733491242637..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Language Problem, Dude: THIS is what HAPPENS when you F*** with REALITY!Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155089927969874752006-08-08T19:18:00.000-07:002006-08-08T19:18:00.000-07:00For an in-depth perspective on the "depth" and "vi...For an in-depth perspective on the "depth" and "viewer involvement" of television, rent "Videodrome".<BR/>(director David Cronenberg)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155083555113183422006-08-08T17:32:00.000-07:002006-08-08T17:32:00.000-07:00I know, I know -I was washing the dishes and berat...I know, I know -<BR/>I was washing the dishes and berating myself for not gazing.<BR/>That whole knee-jerk moral relativity tic fascinates me, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155082883405243692006-08-08T17:21:00.000-07:002006-08-08T17:21:00.000-07:00Easy for you to say. Most of us aren't smart enoug...Easy for you to say. Most of us aren't smart enough to watch TV. I'll just stick with books and meditation.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155081644082589822006-08-08T17:00:00.000-07:002006-08-08T17:00:00.000-07:00Read some Marshall McLuhan before you start tellin...Read some Marshall McLuhan before you start telling people that television is just a "concrete world of pictures". Television forces depth and involvement on the viewer. Television is not used to its full potential but it is anything but a liberal propaganda tool. You are far too concerned about political lefts and rights and not nearly concerned enough about greater human being.The Unbelievablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737910238009846712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155081281533965732006-08-08T16:54:00.000-07:002006-08-08T16:54:00.000-07:00My favorite trick to pull on pointy headed know it...My favorite trick to pull on pointy headed know it all liberals, is to use random eduspeak. Eventually, they figure out that I am not making any sense, but pride keeps them from admitting it.Mother Effingbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01264056812587985898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155081105915229752006-08-08T16:51:00.000-07:002006-08-08T16:51:00.000-07:00Sal--Have you ever heard of "milking a bull?" I w...Sal--<BR/><BR/>Have you ever heard of "milking a bull?" I wouldn't advise it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155079691183633182006-08-08T16:28:00.000-07:002006-08-08T16:28:00.000-07:00"Anyone that reads righty blogs knows that they ar..."Anyone that reads righty blogs knows that they are much more self-correcting than lefty blogs."<BR/><BR/>Is that so? Could you cite some examples of self-corrections performed by blogs on the Right. I can cite an example of self-correction performed by a media outlet alleged here to be on the Left. Reuters corrected its mistake with the photograph at issue. Thus, it seems to me that a strong argument could be made that the righteous indignation with which you're attacking Reuters and the Left over this incident should perhaps be directed far more at the duplicitous photographer than at Reuters, much less the Left, per se.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155079218002015292006-08-08T16:20:00.000-07:002006-08-08T16:20:00.000-07:00Under the rubric of "my crackpot ruminations" re t...Under the rubric of "my crackpot ruminations" re the topic of the visual image:<BR/><BR/>The Primordial Lie is always a *glamorization" of something or other, and modernity has made a science out of glamorization. To be glamorized is to actually have a spell cast on you, so that you are seduced by an illusion, a chimera. This isn't really a figure of speech - it actually is rather "occult", though we moderns don't think of it that way. But it's no less "magical" than were the ancient arts that dealt with spells, etc.<BR/><BR/>With the advent of the photo, then film/video, a form of magical spell-casting was made scientifically possible. The Ad Merchants have come to know the power of the image and how to manipulate it to max effect, so does Hollywood, obviously. Addictions rely to a great extent on image and its seductive properties: food, sex, violence, excitements, passions, all stimulated by manipulation of image. There probably is a very positive and highly spiritual use to which the visual image can be applied, but that's in the future when spiritual science really comes unto its own. Meanwhile, we have to deal with the most base, corrupt forms of image-manipulation, ie., of glamour. <BR/><BR/>Dead Child Porn is a glamorization, a truly base one, but it's one nevertheless. It feeds into a larger glamorization, that of the romancing of the "revolutionary", which truly got its start in the 20th C when the techniques of modern glamorization were perfected. Hey, it's exciting to be a revolutionary, albeit the results of revolutionary activity prove to be manifestly evil. It rotates on the image of the "little guy" fighting the Man - think of those images of young Fidel in the mountains or of Hezbollah guerillas dashing about, firing off their Katushas right under the noses of the IDF. Glamorous stuff. Hollywood stuff, even. In any event, we should never underestimate the power of glamour - it really operates on "astral" principles, it's man-created maya, illusion, that which keeps the earth in spiritual bondage. That's why we must always endeavor to "stay awake", particularly during this current Dark Night.<BR/><BR/>Even though I manfully resist seductively dancing tv food-images, it really is time for dinner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155076917382416172006-08-08T15:41:00.000-07:002006-08-08T15:41:00.000-07:00Sal, I would like to see every media outlet that c...Sal, I would like to see every media outlet that claims to be delivering the news do it as objectively as possible. Again, I trust that you would as well and that you would be just as indignant about falsehood presented by right-wing media as truth as you are when what you perceive as left-wing media is guilty of the same.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155073429673761612006-08-08T14:43:00.001-07:002006-08-08T14:43:00.001-07:00Ben--Good point. Everything always revolves around...Ben--<BR/><BR/>Good point. Everything always revolves around Arab values, one of which has never been "peace"--rather, things like shame, pride, narcissism, sociopathy, human sacrifices to Allah-Moloch, and manipulation of western liberals.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155072569686766252006-08-08T14:29:00.000-07:002006-08-08T14:29:00.000-07:00Steve -Anyone that reads righty blogs knows that t...Steve -<BR/>Anyone that reads righty blogs knows that they are much more self-correcting than lefty blogs.<BR/>Please see Charles Johnson's "Little Green Footballs", for example.<BR/><BR/>Why is that? B/c they actually believe that there is a connection between facts and the truth.<BR/>If you don't believe that in the first place - then you don't bother.<BR/>Which is the whole point of Bob's post. 'Fake but accurate' takes you places you shouldn't go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155068714564764092006-08-08T13:25:00.000-07:002006-08-08T13:25:00.000-07:00Reality is quite malleable.A week ago, the situati...Reality is quite malleable.<BR/><BR/>A week ago, the situation in Lebanon was so horrible that the President of Lebanon was calling for an Unconditional Ceasefire. Now that a proposal for Ceasefire exists, all of a sudden, he wants conditions: "Full Israeli withdrawal first". The conclusion is obvious: As bad as the hammering of Lebanon is, the idea that the carnage might stop, but leave Israeli troops in Lebanon must be, in Lebanese eyes, worse. <BR/><BR/>It is easy, and lazy, to be in favor of peace without explaining further what one means by it. We all want peace. The problem is what else we want, and what we want more than peace. The Israelis prefer survival to a peace that threatens their survival. The Arabs prefer pride to peace that threatens their pride. One of the two has to give; Israeli survival or Arab pride, or the war won't end. <BR/><BR/>BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155064902444574672006-08-08T12:21:00.000-07:002006-08-08T12:21:00.000-07:00As for the righteous pummeling Reuters is receivin...<I>As for the righteous pummeling Reuters is receiving?</I><BR/><BR/>you overestimate yourselves, again.cleekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12546259017245183448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155061634801403162006-08-08T11:27:00.000-07:002006-08-08T11:27:00.000-07:00There's nothing wrong with having a point of view....There's nothing wrong with having a point of view. In fact, it's naive to think that you can avoid having one. The only problem is that the MSM denies their liberal agenda and hides behind a childish pretense of "objectivity." If they would just come out and acknowledge their bias, I would have no problem with them.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155057776796601852006-08-08T10:22:00.000-07:002006-08-08T10:22:00.000-07:00great post. The primordial lie and the party of M...great post. The primordial lie and the party of Moloch. Is that the worst thing parents could ever do, raise their children as a blood sacrifice? And now, rather than kill them on the alter of the damned, parents send their children to kill others in their own death. What a cult! There are smaller lies- materialism, glory, sex- but I can't think of anything worse than this cult of death and slavery.Zrinyi's Last Standhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11957894905385783314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155056987026130202006-08-08T10:09:00.000-07:002006-08-08T10:09:00.000-07:00c'mon Bob. Don't act so surprised. We learned ba...c'mon Bob. Don't act so surprised. We learned back in the 90's that <I>character doesn't matter</I>. Remember?nuke gingrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03075410190924486237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155056563538608652006-08-08T10:02:00.000-07:002006-08-08T10:02:00.000-07:00I trust that if Fox News, the Washington Times, or...I trust that if Fox News, the Washington Times, or any other right-wing publication has ever been or ever becomes guilty of a similar manipulation of the facts, you have condemned it and "Rightists" in general or will condemn it and Rightists in general just as roundly as you condemn this incident and "Leftists" in general.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155056267846661892006-08-08T09:57:00.000-07:002006-08-08T09:57:00.000-07:00>>In short, reality doesn’t matter. There’s a grea...>>In short, reality doesn’t matter. There’s a greater truth involved, which you might say has been the motto of every leftist since Karl Marx<<<BR/><BR/>Didn't Al Gore recently come right out and announce that lying (I think he used the word "exaggerating" or something similar, but it amounts to lying)about global warming issues was fine, considering the threat involved?<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking too of Carl Sagan, who always proclaimed himself champion of pure scientific objectivity, fudging the stats (lying, in other words)re: the Nuclear Winter issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155055458944473872006-08-08T09:44:00.000-07:002006-08-08T09:44:00.000-07:00I sent the LGF link to a friend who lives at the r...I sent the LGF link to a friend who lives at the rim of the Beltway yesterday. This morning I received his reply. It was of the same fabric you describe. Since he's an engineer by training, I asked him the question: Do you want good data or bad data?<BR/><BR/>So far, no response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155054492229289512006-08-08T09:28:00.000-07:002006-08-08T09:28:00.000-07:00"Sorry. Can't help anyone who insists on deifying ..."Sorry. Can't help anyone who insists on deifying lies."<BR/><BR/>There is an entire culture dedicated to do just that, justifying bigotry racism and hate.<BR/><BR/>You know, God's work.SC&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08896449261475558935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155053689195554572006-08-08T09:14:00.000-07:002006-08-08T09:14:00.000-07:00"The primordial lie is the nullification of the co..."The primordial lie is the nullification of the covenant between language and reality, so that language is used for its effect rather than as a tool to convey truth. For the left, good language is effective language,"<BR/><BR/>Yes, like those who attempt perpetual motion contraptions, or artifical intelligence, they think that if they can say it often enough and with enough complexity to convince... (convince is the wrong word), sway enough people into believing what they want to be real, that will somehow transform their whim into reality.<BR/><BR/>Note to self: It seems like "The Big Lebowski" is a movie I need to rent.<BR/>P.S. I've moved my home from msn.spaces (WHACK!)to Blooger at<BR/>http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155053380741500122006-08-08T09:09:00.000-07:002006-08-08T09:09:00.000-07:00And without the blogsphere, these lies would be pe...And without the blogsphere, these lies would be perpetuated and continue to stand as fact until someone would do the research and write a book 10 or 20 years later disputing them. <BR/>I don't beleive anything the MSM has to say because they have become so agendized towards the left. Whenever a story comes out, slanted left, I wait a few days to see what the real truth is.<BR/><BR/>Anon. 8:20<BR/><BR/>>>"Leftist,socialist,communist, marxist...<BR/>I think you know what I mean."<<<BR/><BR/>I certainly do know what you mean!<BR/>LIARS ALL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155051557302212942006-08-08T08:39:00.000-07:002006-08-08T08:39:00.000-07:00Thank you! I was obviously thinking of John Bridg...Thank you! I was obviously thinking of John Bridges.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155051199402433712006-08-08T08:33:00.000-07:002006-08-08T08:33:00.000-07:00Okay, having read the post - no laughing matter. I...Okay, having read the post - no laughing matter. I had no idea that the left has been ignoring this story (lefty blogs make my head ache, due to gnashing of teeth), but I'm not surprised. If they acknowledge that the news is doctored to fit their view of things, they might actually have to change their worldview -they might be required to stick their heads out of their cozy cabin and check the coastline, to use a Whittleism. Much better to move ahead, making no eye contact with the Truth; nothing to see here...<BR/><BR/>By the way, that's "John" Goodman, not Jeff Goodman in the Big L.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1155051014716562532006-08-08T08:30:00.000-07:002006-08-08T08:30:00.000-07:00Sorry. Can't help anyone who insists on deifying ...Sorry. Can't help anyone who insists on deifying lies.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.com