tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post112899302633648098..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: How to Survive a Natural Disaster and Be Somebody, Part OneGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129568183855214652005-10-17T09:56:00.000-07:002005-10-17T09:56:00.000-07:00Interesting post. I blogged something similar a w...Interesting post. I blogged something similar a while ago, on the <A HREF="http://tdaxp.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/07/18/go-deep-ooda-and-the-rainbow-of-generational-warfare.html" REL="nofollow">OODA Loop</A> and <A HREF="http://tdaxp.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html" REL="nofollow">5th Generation Warfare</A><BR/><BR/>Dan <A HREF="http://tdaxp.blogspirit.com" REL="nofollow">tdaxp</A>Dan tdaxphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07205344738190870766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129121416838018452005-10-12T05:50:00.000-07:002005-10-12T05:50:00.000-07:00It is not easy to overcome individual and collecti...It is not easy to overcome individual and collective superstitions. I don't see where orgnanized religion has foisted any more superstitions on people than say economics, politics and even psychology. Has it been that long since the mentally ill were chained? Remember lobotomies? 150 years ago, Blacks were property and how long has it been since women couldn't vote? I have a bit of trouble connecting all of this to monotheism.<BR/><BR/>To elaborate a bit on what gagdad alluded to, I noted when living in Africa in a predominately Muslim area, ju-jus were very prominently worn by many, many people and there were still some old-time pagan type ceremonies. I was in the Peace Corps and I recall one time during a dry spell a bunch of the women dressed like men, went into the bush and held a secret ceremony. It didn't bring any rain, nor did traditional prayers at the mosque.goeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781857563232791703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129065493086542592005-10-11T14:18:00.000-07:002005-10-11T14:18:00.000-07:00"But, I detect some sort of dialectic- did not sci..."But, I detect some sort of dialectic- did not scientifc thought flourish in an atmosphere of receding religiosity, i.e., the enlightenment period? Clearly, the judeo-christian epistomology was necssary, and even foundational, but was it sufficient?"<BR/><BR/>Good point, clearing up. There is no question that the enlightenment brought with it a diminution of magic and superstition. However, I think the magic and superstition were a product of the "default" state of human beings, which involves a more primitive merger with the environment and a confusion between subjective and objective. Christianity accomodated this kind of thinking for a long time, in order to grow--especially Catholicism. I believe that even today there are places in South America and Africa that, although nominally Christian, are somewhat indistinguishible from paganism. <BR/><BR/>The real dialectic, which I hope to address in the subsequent post, is between religion and psychological development. The key is psychological development, however it occurs. There are definitely some unique aspects of the Judeo-Christian tradition that spurred the development of the modern self, although, like everything else, it took time.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129058769383735312005-10-11T12:26:00.000-07:002005-10-11T12:26:00.000-07:00I see Christianity as a shell; in expending tremen...I see Christianity as a shell; in expending tremendous mental and psychological effort breaking out from it, society has developed the necessary strength to grow into a new age. Christianity was just the right hardness of shell; not too tough to be penetrable, but strong enough to demand those who rise from its fetters earn it.<BR/><BR/>Now generations have been born and raised without ever needed to escape from anything by their own efforts. Thus we have our leftist boobs who have never had to struggle with anything, mental or otherwise, in their life. They've never had to confront themselves as flawed and inherently sinful, but have had everything gifted to them from fawning parents eager for their children to love them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129054857656798782005-10-11T11:20:00.000-07:002005-10-11T11:20:00.000-07:00As someone increasingly monomaniac on the usefulne...As someone increasingly monomaniac on the usefulness of the Myers Briggs, I think in those terms. It appears to me Judaeo-Christianity and, perhaps, Buddhism, can find a place for all the temperaments (although the NTs seem to have staged a coup at the Episcopal Desk...)<BR/><BR/>Not really an explanation, but a way to look at breadth within the dogmatic boundaries of any religion. For instance, "submission" as a key meme disallows the reflexes so dear to SPs (pragmatic solutions) and NTs (reevaluating the system). On the other hand, NFs (relationship primacy) and SJs (cautious and responsible) probably do better in such tribal contexts.<BR/><BR/>Richard Grant Ph.D. in Austin is doing interesting work from which I blithely steal....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1129047808604794662005-10-11T09:23:00.000-07:002005-10-11T09:23:00.000-07:00Rosecrucian:Concur. It is entirely possible that ...Rosecrucian:<BR/><BR/>Concur. It is entirely possible that Islam would not have survived had it not been for the fortuitous discovery of oil under their feet. Otherwise, their dysfunctional worldview would have gone the way of other cultures, such as the Aztec. The uncreated wealth of oil prevents them from receiving the feedback they need to correct course, and fosters the magical illusion that there is nothing wrong with their way of looking at the world. Sort of like a retard with a billion dollar trust fund.... No wait, that's George Soros.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.com