Thursday, June 03, 2010

One Stalled Step for Man, One Giant Sleep for Moonkind

Well, I really don't have time for a new post, so I'm reposting this one, to which my site meter alerted me. I have a reader -- I have no idea who he is -- who seems to find occasion to link to one of my posts nearly every day in the comments at Free Republic. I get the sense that he actually has a better handle on what's in the arkive than I do, because he seems to have an appropriate post at his fingertips for every occasion. Whoever he is, he seems able to quote chapter and verse from the vast and unruly libertoreum.

Anyway, that's one of the ways I learn what's in the arkive, for example, this old post which I will proceed to edit and polish up.

There's a reason why hardcore leftists -- and as always, I mean, the True Believers, not just the typical confused, misinformed, or dim Democrat -- are such assouls, since political inclination has more to do with temperament than people might realize.

For example, being that the B'ob is temperamentally such a sanguine, lighthearted, gay sort of man, he could never find his soul's rest in leftism, which is predicated on so much anger, envy, bitterness, paranoia, leaden seriousness, deep unhappiness, and general "sourness." For the leftist, life sucks, and only a huge and intrusive state can turn things around and make it really blow.

That being the headcase, one wonders how Barry Obama, the young stoner with the seemingly laid back, live-and-let-live island temperament, could be a member of an angry and paranoid church that preaches racial supremacy, America hatred, anti-Semitism, and other vile doctrines that can only find fertile soil in a soul that is already enraged and looking for a place to organize, focus, and project the rage? In other words, this kind of church doesn't make you nuts. You have to be a nut in order for it to appeal to you in the first place. What normal person would even enter such a debased place, let alone stay there for two decades?

First of all, Obama has been candid in acknowledging his struggle with identity, at least according to his autobiographer, Bill Ayers. Now, most moonstream commentators -- since they are virtually all materialists -- have reduced this to a superficial materialistic analysis, i.e., that he is "bi-racial" (as if there can even be such a thing outside the race-obsessed leftist's mind), so that he was essentially left without a tribe. And in primitive tribal culture, a man without a tribe is an existentially dead man. A leftist without his tribe is like a bee without his hive, or an ant without his hill, or a rapper without his posse.

Again, this all follows from the leftist's cosmological inversion, in which existence precedes essence, rather than vice versa. In other words, on any properly spiritual view, one is born with a spiritual essence that is anterior to existence, as it is created by God, not a contingent result of accidental cultural and historical forces, such as raceclassgendersexualorientation.

Therefore, the idea that any leftist candidate could ever be "post-racial" is not even a lie, it's an absurdity. It would be like a sheep running for shepherd on the grounds that he will be a post-flock candidate. He can bleat about this all day long, but it is in the nature of sheep to identify and be merged with the flock.

Likewise, the Democrat party is a coalition of groups, not individuals, a Big Chief Crazy Quilt of flocking birdbrains, journalistic hack animals, buffaloed herds, moveable riots, giant snit-ins, snivel rights agitators, and demonstrations of affect, schools of economic fish stories, CAIRing allahgators, herds of poor listeners, ovary tower spinsters, whordes of sex-workers, feline prides of lyin' shemales, old kennels of K - 9 educators who can't learn new tricks, pods of peaheaded publications, plagues of lawyering locusts, boring nests of teeming tenuremites, lowly trolls with holes in their souls, knob-gobbling gaggles of gamboling NAMBLArs, and a boring Goredom spanning the gamut from lying weathermen to those who don't know whether they're men.

So Obama, in order to be a viable Democrat, had to tap into one of the prominent streams of anger, envy, bitterness, and divisiveness that define and animate the left. Oddly, his whole appeal was based on the misperception that he was beyond this sort of destructive divisiveness, but this is about as realistic as an Arab leader claiming to be "beyond the differences between Muslim and Jew," without which they could not be an Arab leader. For what does the Arab political world have to recommend itself except for an officially sanctioned target for their overflowing rage, envy, sexual insecurity, and low self-esteem? In other words, all the Arab leader has to offer his people is death to Israel.

Similarly, what does the Democrat leader have to offer his various tribes except for Bush, or Cheney, or Rove, or Halliburton, or the Wealthy, or scary Christians, or Creationists, or Racists Teabaggers, or misogynists, or "homophobes," or We're all gonna die from climate change? What's left of the Left if you remove these fantasied containers of projected rage and fear? Only the free-floating rage and fear.

Now, America was founded as a -- as the -- Culture of Liberty. But as it so happens, there is no liberty without individuals, and no individual without liberty. (By the way, this is one of the areas where I strongly disagree with the "integral movement," which talks about a "higher we," which is actually just Marxism in disguise, and why they are almost always on the left; there's already a "higher we," i.e., the Body of Christ, understood in its Cosmic dimension -- in other words, the cosmic Body of Christ is the proper "we" with which the individual "I" may be reconciled, bearing in mind that this Christ is merely focussed in the lens of Christianity, but permeates the spiritual dimension in a nonlocal manner, "blowing where it will," including in those "other sheep who are not of this fold.")

And this is indeed bears upon the broad purpose of the spiritual life -- or let us just say Life: to become what you already are. Life's purpose can never be to become what the group wishes for you to be, for this is slavery, not liberty. Classical liberalism enshrines a sort of liberty that implicitly promotes the use of it for higher ends, since it is a "gift" given for that very purpose. Its alternative -- leftism in all its guises -- enshrines the idea that your liberty is a privilege granted by the state, subject to revocation if you do not use it to promote slavery, whether intellectual, political, spiritual, sexual, or economic, for liberty is One.

As Michael Heller argues in Creative Tension, postmodernism has succeeded in displacing man from the "privileged margin" to an "average center" of the cosmos. In other words, flatland materialism actually effaces the spiritual individual and replaces him with the selfish atom, as it were, so that Man's true existential needs -- which are intrinsically spiritual -- can never be engaged in any meaningful way.

So the ascension of Obama was one stalled step for man, but one giant sleep for moonkind.

45 Comments:

Blogger Susannah said...

"Again, this all follows from the leftist's cosmological inversion, in which existence precedes essence, rather than vice versa. In other words, on any properly spiritual view, one is born with a spiritual essence that is anterior to existence, as it is created by God, not a contingent result of accidental cultural and historical forces, such as raceclassgendersexualorientation.

Therefore, the idea that any leftist candidate could ever be "post-racial" is not even a lie, it's an absurdity."

You echoed my very thoughts yesterday after reading that Wallis piece. Another home run! I love the whole post.

6/03/2010 08:46:00 AM  
Blogger Gecko said...

GOOD NEWS and blessings for
Julie and Sean Cork:
Happy birthday to Liam Michael!

Born 6/2/10 @ 9:24 PM, 7 lbs. 14 oz.; apgar scores 8 & 9

Sleeping soundly for the moment, awaiting his first bath.
...
Pictures will hopefully be posted tomorrow :)

6/03/2010 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger black hole said...

Well this post certifies you as a complainer.

So, after all the sobbing, then what?

6/03/2010 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger Northern Bandit said...

black hole:

So you're the kind of black hole where light cannot escape the event horizon, yet somehow bullshit can?

Fascinating!

6/03/2010 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger black hole said...

Well, after thinking it over I realize that political blogging pretty much requires making complaints.

Because, if nothing is wrong, then there's no need for political blogging.

Bob must perforce criticize,incriminate,prosecute, blame, carp, disrespect, dismiss, pan, satirize, slander and smear those who do not believe in the correct political doctrine.

It is a job and somebody's got to do it. If a society cannot subject itself to examination then corrupt and evil elements will necessarily go unchecked.

So I have no beef here after all. BH

6/03/2010 11:56:00 AM  
Blogger ted said...

I've been reading your blog almost daily, and appreciate all the great work you do. Once in while, the "sanguine, lighthearted, gay sort of man" compels me to respond -- or maybe it's just my mind parasites talking up a storm again. Being someone who is compelled by the "integral movement", I think you may lose sight of the "higher we" talk that Andrew Cohen, Ken Wilber, and others may be referring to. The point here is that it can not be "Marxism in disguise" as a true "higher we" is grounded in autonomy and agency. So why bother coming together at all in this collective individualism? Primarily, because we can't evolve consciousness alone. Sure we can all become what we are as individuals, but a true "higher we" is not tied to some groupthink ideology. It is infused with what we already are, but in communion (as well as agency). The world's root problems can be better resolved if we can all come together beyond ego. We may not all agree on every point, but we can at least move forward -- not towards some progressive idealism but so "thy will be done."

6/03/2010 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger ge said...

what a paragraph!

Likewise, the Democrat party is a coalition of groups, not individuals, a Big Chief Crazy Quilt of flocking birdbrains, journalistic hack animals, buffaloed herds, moveable riots, giant snit-ins, snivel rights agitators, and demonstrations of affect, schools of economic fish stories, CAIRing allahgators, herds of poor listeners, ovary tower spinsters, whordes of sex-workers, feline prides of lyin' shemales, old kennels of K - 9 educators who can't learn new tricks, pods of peaheaded publications, plagues of lawyering locusts, boring nests of teeming tenuremites, lowly trolls with holes in their souls, knob-gobbling gaggles of gamboling NAMBLArs, and a boring Goredom spanning the gamut from lying weathermen to those who don't know whether they're men.


blackie:
at least Bob's complaints, besides being well-aimed, are puntastically witty

6/03/2010 12:12:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Can you nominate a paragraph for a Pulitzer or Nobel Prize for Literature? This is a winner:

Likewise, the Democrat party is a coalition of groups, not individuals, a Big Chief Crazy Quilt of flocking birdbrains, journalistic hack animals, buffaloed herds, moveable riots, giant snit-ins, snivel rights agitators, and demonstrations of affect, schools of economic fish stories, CAIRing allahgators, herds of poor listeners, ovary tower spinsters, whordes of sex-workers, ....

6/03/2010 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Thanks for the update on Julie, Gecko.

Honest, I would have made his middle name "Pullah".

6/03/2010 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Ted, I think I agree with you about the necessity of coming together. But the way I read Bob's point was that we already have a means of moving to this higher "we" in Christ -- the communion of the saints.

Marxism is materialistic Christianity -- Christianity without the Reality of Christ, redemption, resurrection, transformation, sanctification, etc. Unfortunately, then, the only way to actually make it work is by force.

6/03/2010 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Yes, my point is that nearly all "integralists" are leftists, whereas the vast majority of seriously religious people are conservative classical liberals. And a leftist anything is always more leftist than whatever the adjective is modifying, whether it is leftist Christian, leftist historian, leftist economist, whatever. People who imagine otherwise are only fooling themselves.

6/03/2010 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I might add that there's never a genuine "we" on the left, only a Them, since by definition it involves top-down coercion by the elites who run the state.

Furthermore, there are always negative consequences for those who want no part of the leftist Them -- for example, how how the statists characterize their opponents as racist.

A genuine We is a spontaneous spiritual order which includes shared values. Thus, another way the left makes the higher we impossible is through the noxious doctrine of multiculturalism.

6/03/2010 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

It is a job and somebody's got to do it. If a society cannot subject itself to examination then corrupt and evil elements will necessarily go unchecked. BH

BH - that's just the point. Leftists don't examine themselves, they always blame someone else, and expect the govt. to fix whatever they don't know what's wrong with them, when that's an impossible feat and only makes society worse.

They are afraid to grow up and take responsibility for the individual self. And are terrified of the "grownups" because they don't understand it, which makes them susceptible to politicians who claim they can fix it all with redistribution of wealth - but are in reality as lost as they are.

If you're too lazy to get ahead, it's not your fault - it's that wealthy person's fault - so rob them so you can feel better.

You claim to be rich - doesn't it bother you when the left is clamoring for higher taxes on the rich and redistribution of wealth? If not, and you're all for it - why haven't you already given all your money to the poor so you can be poor too and "level the playing field?"

6/03/2010 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger black hole said...

This post is inflammatory.

You have villified a section of our population.

You have dehumanized them by the use of derogatory labels.

You blame them for all ills of our society, past, present, and future.

You identify them as the people holding the reins of governmental power.

You consider them a threat.

You leave the reader with the conviction that this element should be neutralized.

You are making war here. So far its all words and ideas, but there is not that far of a leap until people get hurt.

Do you realize you are fomenting insurgency and destabilizing our government?

Is that what you want?

Think about it.

6/03/2010 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger Retriever said...

Thanks, Gecko, for the good news about young Liam. Yay!

Bob, I haven't enjoyed political commentary as much since first encountering Hunter Thompson. Don't be offended by the comparison. Also echoes of vintage Walker Percy mocking those in charge.

Particularly timely recycle of the post given the analogy with an Arab pretending to have no animosity towards Jews whilst plotting the destruction of Israel is his raison d'etre.

I admire you for not giving up on politics in disgust. I waffle on about the personal way too much in utter despair at the way our country is heading.

6/03/2010 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger ted said...

Bob, thanks again. To your point that integralists are mostly left, I have to say yes I agree. Because they (I) am looking at this process in an evolutionary/developmental context, we often see the left more willing to progress things forward. However, the right would never see it that way - as you put it so eloquently that such change is grounded in materialistic notions and mind parasites that are projected on to the world. So I agree, and have been challenged by my own political assumptions. (Full disclosure: I voted for Obama -- oh the shame :). Actually, I still support some aspects of his efforts but have begun to see how obscurations can muddle us all. So does that mean we throw all of the values of the left away. No, because despite them being a "coalition of groups", there are some core values beyond "multi-culturalism" that may need looking at. What are those? Dare I go there? -- but I will say there is an ease of adaptability on the left that the right has not fully embraced. Then again, there are many mind parasites there also. As someone mentioned, the left are usually externalists - blaming everything on what is out there. So how do we facilitate a looking within? Again, integral has never been about mashing left and right ideas together, but to move orthogonally to something new. Maybe there are shared values some deeper souls can bridge in the coming years.

6/03/2010 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

"Well this post certifies you as a complainer."

Right back atcha!

"Do you realize you are fomenting insurgency and destabilizing our government?"

Dissent...no longer patriotic. :D

6/03/2010 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

LOL - BH - that's EXACTLY what the left is doing. But you're such a clueless hypocrit you can't see it.

WE aren't the ones who want to destroy people's rights.

WE are all in favor of the US Constitution that grants INDIVIDUAL rights.

The left are the ones using RACE as a political platform. And materialist greed to assert "prominence" over other people. And NOT including them in the Constitution where "all men are created equal."

People like YOU are the ones who want to crap on the Constitution and are causing a "revolution." But not in a good way.

Feh! You make me sick!

6/03/2010 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

It's come to this: government should engineer happiness. (Step one: kill all the people who are unhappy with socialism.)

6/03/2010 05:34:00 PM  
Blogger ge said...

Palin
rising

6/03/2010 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

And Bok doesn't take into account all the rich, famous people who are severely unhappy. What do they have to be unhappy about? They have money. They have privilege. They get what they want when they want it. Are they happy? NO.

I've been poor all my life. Would I want to be Lindsey Lohan or Britney Spears or Conan O'Brien? NO.

They have every luxury money can buy. And in Conan's case (and probably Spears - I think Lohan has already spent most of hers on blow), have more money than they could ever spend. And they are still miserable and clueless.

Money does not equal happiness.

6/03/2010 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"And this is indeed bears upon the broad purpose of the spiritual life -- or let us just say Life: to become what you already are. Life's purpose can never be to become what the group wishes for you to be, for this is slavery, not liberty. Classical liberalism enshrines a sort of liberty that implicitly promotes the use of it for higher ends, since it is a "gift" given for that very purpose. Its alternative -- leftism in all its guises -- enshrines the idea that your liberty is a privilege granted by the state, subject to revocation if you do not use it to promote slavery, whether intellectual, political, spiritual, sexual, or economic, for liberty is One. "

And the irony is that in True individual liberty, real community is found... not mandated or compelled, but found. Found in the real choices and real interests of individuals, common interests are realized and in that honest integration a love of community is found to grow.

Not only is that not found on the left, it cannot be found on the left, because the leftist communisties are formed of coercion, not choice, and that prevents choice, in fact it excludes you from that moment of your own life where you have been prevented from making the choice (and living in your life) and the life you otherwise would have.

Leftism is zombiefication.

6/03/2010 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

Also - money does not equal knowledge and intelligence.

6/03/2010 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

Van, I agree.

6/03/2010 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Gagdad said "I might add that there's never a genuine "we" on the left, only a Them, since by definition it involves top-down coercion by the elites who run the state..."A genuine We is a spontaneous spiritual order which includes shared values. "

Exactly!

"Thus, another way the left makes the higher we impossible is through the noxious doctrine of multiculturalism."

I was reading Josef Pieper's "Abuse of Language Abuse of Power" last night (it and his "Cardinal Virtues" came yesterday Yeah!), and he notes in it how

"The reality of the word in eminent ways makes existential interaction happen. And so, if the word becomes corrupted, human existence itself will not remain unaffected and untainted.
...First, words convey reality. We speak in order to name and identify something that is real, to identify it for someone, of course -..."

and this goes with the above well, with PC and multiculturalism, the flattery of each other into feeling so darn swell about the so-correct things you mouth to eachother,

"...This is, in Plato's dialogues, the constantly repeated lament and accusation (and to realize their astonishingly modern relevance, all we have to do is sum them up): reality, you think, should be of interest to you only insofar as you can impressively talk about it! And because you are not interested in reality, you are unable to converse. You can give fine speeches, but you simply cannot join in a conversation; you are incapable of dialogue!"

It'd be fun to fun that up obamao's teleprompter.

6/03/2010 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

OK- just one more post and I'll shut up.

Leftists think that other people's money will make them happy.

If they're rich - they want to give away other poeple's money "to the poor" but not their own.

If they're poor they want to take other people's money instead of making their own.

6/03/2010 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger anon said...

For example, being that the B'ob is temperamentally such a sanguine, lighthearted, gay sort of man, he could never find his soul's rest in leftism, which is predicated on so much anger, envy, bitterness, paranoia, leaden seriousness, deep unhappiness, and general "sourness." For the leftist, life sucks, and only a huge and intrusive state can turn things around and make it really blow.

Projection. You spend more than half your writing bitterly complaining about the leftists who run the world, infiltrate academia, and generally seem to sour your outlook. I've rarely seen anybody quite so wound up in systematic hatred as you.

It's particularly striking since it more or less invalidates all the spiritual stuff. If the only way you can be godly is by uttering vile slanders, your religion sucks.

6/03/2010 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

(Oops... left off the last of Pieper's quote)

"...Any discourse detached from the norms of reality is at the same time mere monologue. What does it mean, after all, to be detached form the norms of reality? It means indifference regarding the truth. To be true means, indeed, to be determined in speech and thought by what is real..."

Pick any PC enthusiasm you'd like, then try and match it to reality, and even to the reality of the actions of the politically correct - they do not even conform to eachother, let alone with reality.

6/03/2010 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

bh blustered "You have ..."

... been speaking to the mirror again?

6/03/2010 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

ted said "...but have begun to see how obscurations can muddle us all..."

Uh-huh, starting with the words you use to describe them. Obscuration is fuzzing the edges, trying to hide the unsightly by focusing on something else. Lies do not obscure, they disintegrate - there's a difference.

Regarding your,

"So does that mean we throw all of the values of the left away. No, because despite them being a "coalition of groups", there are some core values beyond "multi-culturalism" that may need looking at."

There are no values to be found in the destruction of values. Zero. Zip.

Pick any of those supposed 'values' and ask yourself (and check the facts) "Does this leftist 'value' rely on people choosing to support it, or at root does it rely upon using the force of govt regulation and 'law' to compel people to support it?

The answer is easily discoverable... you can see the truth for yourself, or you can obscure it.

6/03/2010 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

The choice is clear: Madison vs. Wilson.

6/03/2010 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

"Lacking a limiting principle, progressivism cannot say how big the welfare state should be but must always say that it should be bigger than it currently is."

6/03/2010 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Jeez... I've got a post I've been trying to put up before this weekend - looks like I won't make it - but it looks like George Will swiped half of it (probably the better half)... but that quote and Madison vs. Wilson pretty well sums it up.

6/03/2010 09:06:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Ha! Van, linking to zombie's site never fails to shut the mouths of my friends who foam epithets over tea party protesters. Nothing can top the likes of "Nazi K***s out of Lebanon."

6/03/2010 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Bob, re: the government's imagined ability to bring about happiness...

I never cease to be amazed at the disconnect between "business is corrupt" and "government is the answer." It's not like it takes genius to figure out the common denominator between the two.

Cf. that Wallis piece in which he accuses libertarians of putting faith in a "sinless" market, while placing his wide-eyed trust in a "progressive" government which, he fantasizes, somehow retains the Founders' intended checks & balances...so don't worry, it'll all work out fine... That gov't takeover of your bank/dealership/insurance company is just "democratic accountability" in action... Chicago Way? What's that?

6/03/2010 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Checks and balances, man. Democratic accountability...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Five-ways-Obama-may-tax-you-to-pay-for-the-governments-reinvention-of-journalismg--95549194.html

6/03/2010 09:35:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Susannah,

‘Thanks’ for the link… of all the ominous events of the last few years, that is one of the most depressing. If free speech goes... it's all over but the shooting.

You leftists out there, please, if there’s even a shred of liberal understanding left within you, please tell me that just the name of this program fills you with dread, and hopefully anger?!

“The Federal Trade Commission just released what it called “Potential Policy Recommendations to Support the Reinvention of Journalism,”

Seriously?

6/04/2010 05:20:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

This post is even better the second time around.Looks like the insultainment touched a nerve with our B. Ho.

Lighten up Francis. :^)

6/04/2010 08:04:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Welcome aboard, Liam!

6/04/2010 08:05:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

B. Ho said
"Bob must perforce criticize,incriminate,prosecute, blame, carp, disrespect, dismiss, pan, satirize, slander and smear those who do not believe in the correct political doctrine."

No smears or slander necessary, they usually project that just fine on their own.

You may not have a beef over this post but you do have an ass (minus a wise crack).

6/04/2010 08:12:00 AM  
Blogger Lynn said...

Jesus wrote: "For example, being that Jesus is temperamentally such a sanguine, lighthearted, gay sort of man, he could never find his soul's rest in leftism, which is predicated on so much anger, envy, bitterness, paranoia, leaden seriousness, deep unhappiness, and general "sourness." For the leftist, life sucks, and only a huge and intrusive state can turn things around and make it really blow."

anon responded: "Projection. You spend more than half your time bitterly complaining about the leftist Pharisees who run the world, infiltrate academia, and generally seem to sour your outlook. I've rarely seen anybody quite so wound up in systematic hatred as you. It's particularly striking since it more or less invalidates all the spiritual stuff. What is this LASHING OUT at the Scribes and Pharisees as a "BROOD OF VIPERS, HYPOCRITES, WHITEWASHED TOMBS, SONS OF THE DEVIL"????? What is this statement DENYING THAT you CAME TO BRING "PEACE" and asserting that you CAME TO BRING A "SWORD"????? I'm Very disappointed.
If the only way you can be godly is by uttering vile slanders, your religion sucks."



Jesus responds: "Grow up."

Insults and satire are not "un-Christian"

6/04/2010 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger anon said...

Van -- Leftist here. I took a look at the report that you are getting hysterical over (did you read it beyond the title?). Doesn't look very remarkable to me. Journalism as an industry is indeed in deep trouble, as everyone knows, and this report is reviewing and proposing a wide variety of possible mitigations. Most of them are unexceptionable from a 1st amendment standpoint (ie, changes to copyright and IP law). Others have a have potential for abuse (like, special tax breaks for publishers, or having the government fund investigational journalism projects through universities) but don't seem inherently evil.

As the report says, the government has been in the business of supporting the journalism industry in a variety of ways for a long time, from everything from special postal rates to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (and I'm sure you have no love for the latter, but it's been going for 40 years and we don't seem close to a totalitarian reign of muppets).

I guess as a leftist I don't think much of most of these plans, because their likely effect will be to entrench the power of established insititutions (which includes both the NY Times and Fox News, so it's not an ideological thing) over fresh independent upstarts. But that's always the case.

Here's a pretty good article on why newspapers are doomed, why it used to be the case that department stores and car dealerships were effectively subsidizing serious reportage and why the internet has broken that business model, resulting in the need for new models that nobody has invented yet.

6/04/2010 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

I'd heard the Grey Lady was pining for a bailout, but wasn't aware Fox News was in need of one. ;)

I'm guessing the latter can afford to be principled right now. Let's hope so. No news source accepting a handout can be counted "free press."

6/04/2010 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Leslie Godwin said...

Congratulations Julie (and Sean)
And welcome Liam!
You guys are in for a great ride!!
Keep us posted,
Leslie

6/04/2010 10:23:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Aninnymouse said “did you read it beyond the title?”

Yes.

“Doesn't look very remarkable to me”

I’m wearing my “Shocked!” expression now. Equally shocking is the fact that you could write that and then add,

“… Others have a have potential for abuse (like, special tax breaks for publishers, or having the government fund investigational journalism projects through universities)”

, and double down with “… but don't seem inherently evil.”

Yeah. Go figure. And then there’s,

“, the government has been in the business of supporting the journalism industry in a variety of ways for a long time,”

Did you ever notice that some have said, often and loudly, that that might not be a good idea? That it might eventually lead to … oh I don’t know… something like ‘reinventing’ journalism?

“… everything from special postal rates to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (and I'm sure you have no love for the latter, but it's been going for 40 years and we don't seem close to a totalitarian reign of muppets).”

Have you seen Keith Olbermann ?

Yes it has been going on for 40 years… and we are now at the point of considering ‘reinventing’ journalism, ‘having the govt fund investigational journalism’, and considering having a regulatory agency discuss ways to prop up a failing ‘news’ media which the public is making clear they’re rejecting by way of their own choices to literally not pay attention to them… and of course keeping recent Whitehouse efforts in mind… nahhh, you’re right,…no, no slippery slope to see here, move along, just try to stay out of the way of the downhill skiers… the bunny hill is thata-way, move along.

But really, I specifically addressed my comment to those with“…even a shred of liberal understanding left within you…”, you could have just seen that I wasn’t talking to you and saved us both some time.

6/06/2010 03:12:00 PM  

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